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{{location|image=|name=Dor Firn-i-Guinar|othernames=|etymology=[[S.]] ''[[dor]]'' "land" + ''[[firn]]'' "dead" + ''[[i]]'' "who, that" + ''[[guinar]]'' "live"|type=Realm/Island.|location=On the [[Adurant]], [[Tol Galen]].|inhabitants=[[Beren Erchamion|Beren]] and [[Lúthien Tinúviel|Lúthien]].|realms=|description=Great green island amidst river.|events=|references=''[[Of the Fifth Battle: Nirnaeth Arnoediad]]''.|}}
{{location|image=|name=Dor Firn-i-Guinar|othernames=|etymology=[[S.]] ''[[dor]]'' "land" + ''[[firn]]'' "dead" + ''[[i]]'' "who, that" + ''[[cuinar]]'' "live"|type=Realm/Island.|location=On the [[Adurant]], [[Tol Galen]].|inhabitants=[[Beren Erchamion|Beren]] and [[Lúthien Tinúviel|Lúthien]].|realms=|description=Great green island amidst river.|events=|references=''[[Of the Fifth Battle: Nirnaeth Arnoediad]]''.|}}
At the ending of the [[Quest for the Silmaril]], [[Beren Erchamion|Beren]] met his death at the jaws of the great wolf [[Carcharoth]]. So great was [[Lúthien Tinúviel|Lúthien]]'s love of him, though, that she surrendered her own immortality so that he might return to [[Middle-earth]] for a time.
At the ending of the [[Quest for the Silmaril]], [[Beren Erchamion|Beren]] met his death at the jaws of the great wolf [[Carcharoth]]. So great was [[Lúthien Tinúviel|Lúthien]]'s love of him, though, that she surrendered her own immortality so that he might return to [[Middle-earth]] for a time.


They returned out of the [[Halls of Waiting]], and on the green island of [[Tol Galen]] in the southern lands of [[Ossiriand]], they lived in a Land of the Dead that Live, or '''Dor Firn-i-Guinar''' in the Elven tongue.
They returned out of the [[Halls of Waiting]], and on the green island of [[Tol Galen]] in the southern lands of [[Ossiriand]], they lived in a Land of the Dead that Live, or '''Dor Firn-i-Chuinar''' in the Elven tongue.


No mortal Man saw Beren or Lúthien ever again, but they had happy relations with the [[Green-elves]] of Ossiriand who lived around them. After the slaying of Lúthien's father [[Thingol]], Beren took a force of Green-elves north to avenge his death, and recover the stolen [[Silmarils|Silmaril]].
No mortal Man saw Beren or Lúthien ever again, but they had happy relations with the [[Green-elves]] of Ossiriand who lived around them. After the slaying of Lúthien's father [[Thingol]], Beren took a force of Green-elves north to avenge his death, and recover the stolen [[Silmarils|Silmaril]].


From that time, the Silmaril was kept in Dor Firn-i-Guinar and borne by Lúthien, and that land was said to become 'like a vision of the land of the Valar'. [[Dior Eluchíl|Dior]], the son of Beren and Lúthien, then left Dor Firn-i-Guinar with his family, and went to take up the rule his lost grandfather's kingdom of Doriath.
From that time, the Silmaril was kept in Dor Firn-i-Chuinar and borne by Lúthien, and that land was said to become 'like a vision of the land of the Valar'. [[Dior Eluchíl|Dior]], the son of Beren and Lúthien, then left Dor Firn-i-Chuinar with his family, and went to take up the rule his lost grandfather's kingdom of Doriath.
 
Both Beren and Lúthien were mortal, and at last their lives came to an end, and with them their [[Land of the Dead that Live]]. A lord of the Green-elves took the Silmaril, and brought it to their heir, Dior, in Doriath, and Dor Firn-i-Guinar was no more.


Both Beren and Lúthien were mortal, and at last their lives came to an end, and with them their [[Land of the Dead that Live]]. A lord of the Green-elves took the Silmaril, and brought it to their heir, Dior, in Doriath, and Dor Firn-i-Chuinar was no more.
==Etymology==
Tolkien mentions this land with the name ''Dor Gyrth i chuinar'' in [[Letter 417]] and in a much later letter of 1972, as ''Dor Firn i Chuinar''. However [[Silmarillion]] gives the name of that place as ''Dor Firn i Guinar''.  Since the initial ch- fits with the rules of plural mutation, it seems that ''Guinar'' in the Silmarillion is a mistake.
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Revision as of 23:12, 6 August 2008

Dor Firn-i-Guinar
Realm/Island.
General Information
LocationOn the Adurant, Tol Galen.
TypeRealm/Island.
DescriptionGreat green island amidst river.
InhabitantsBeren and Lúthien.

At the ending of the Quest for the Silmaril, Beren met his death at the jaws of the great wolf Carcharoth. So great was Lúthien's love of him, though, that she surrendered her own immortality so that he might return to Middle-earth for a time.

They returned out of the Halls of Waiting, and on the green island of Tol Galen in the southern lands of Ossiriand, they lived in a Land of the Dead that Live, or Dor Firn-i-Chuinar in the Elven tongue.

No mortal Man saw Beren or Lúthien ever again, but they had happy relations with the Green-elves of Ossiriand who lived around them. After the slaying of Lúthien's father Thingol, Beren took a force of Green-elves north to avenge his death, and recover the stolen Silmaril.

From that time, the Silmaril was kept in Dor Firn-i-Chuinar and borne by Lúthien, and that land was said to become 'like a vision of the land of the Valar'. Dior, the son of Beren and Lúthien, then left Dor Firn-i-Chuinar with his family, and went to take up the rule his lost grandfather's kingdom of Doriath.

Both Beren and Lúthien were mortal, and at last their lives came to an end, and with them their Land of the Dead that Live. A lord of the Green-elves took the Silmaril, and brought it to their heir, Dior, in Doriath, and Dor Firn-i-Chuinar was no more.

Etymology

Tolkien mentions this land with the name Dor Gyrth i chuinar in Letter 417 and in a much later letter of 1972, as Dor Firn i Chuinar. However Silmarillion gives the name of that place as Dor Firn i Guinar. Since the initial ch- fits with the rules of plural mutation, it seems that Guinar in the Silmarillion is a mistake.