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Eru (Iluvatar) has only one eye. Check out The Sil. "More piercing than the Eye of Iluvatar." If Eru has two Tolkien being a philologist would have made it "eyes" don't you think?
Eru (Iluvatar) has only one eye. Check out The Sil. "More piercing than the Eye of Iluvatar." If Eru has two Tolkien being a philologist would have made it "eyes" don't you think? {{unsigned|Tolkienscholar91}}
 
:Overinterpretation. --{{User:Ederchil/sig}} 17:38, 17 March 2012 (UTC)
 
::Indeed. You're reading it too literally: if Tolkien were referring to an actual eye he wouldn't have capitalised it; also, eyes don't "pierce". This is eye in the sense of being able to see/notice/perceive, rather than the actual organ. Compare with "Eye of Sauron", which also isn't an actual eye, but a metaphor for the endless vigilance of his servants commanded through his ceaseless will. --{{User:Mith/sig}} 18:24, 17 March 2012 (UTC)
 
:::From Psalm 33:18: ''Behold, the eye of the LORD is upon them that fear him, upon them that hope in his mercy;''. This Psalm is very popular and this use of the singular eye has long ago worked its way into common Christian symbolism. See https://www.google.com/search?q=bible+%22eye+of+god%22&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a#hl=en&client=firefox-a&hs=8Az&rls=org.mozilla:en-US%3Aofficial&sclient=psy-ab&q=%22eye+of+the+lord%22+-apple&oq=%22eye+of+the+lord%22+-apple&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&gs_l=serp.3...153874l159433l3l160838l12l12l2l0l0l0l120l981l7j3l10l0.frgbld.&psj=1&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_cp.r_qf.,cf.osb&fp=d70c8e76b178f69e&biw=1372&bih=573.{{Unsigned|Jallan}}
 
::::hmmm... An eye may well be a common Christian symbol (though, I've not come across it before), but this is not evidence that Eru, a being that exists outside the physical universe, has one eye.--{{User:KingAragorn/sig}} 18:06, 29 March 2012 (UTC)
:::::The Eye of God or All-seeing Eye is a Christian and generally theist symbol, as seen on the US seal on a dollar. It is called [[Wikipedia:Eye of Providence|Eye of Providence]]. [[User:Sage|Sage]] 17:15, 30 March 2012 (UTC)

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Eru (Iluvatar) has only one eye. Check out The Sil. "More piercing than the Eye of Iluvatar." If Eru has two Tolkien being a philologist would have made it "eyes" don't you think? Unsigned comment by Tolkienscholar91 (talk • contribs).

Overinterpretation. --Ederchil (Talk/Contribs/Edits) 17:38, 17 March 2012 (UTC)
Indeed. You're reading it too literally: if Tolkien were referring to an actual eye he wouldn't have capitalised it; also, eyes don't "pierce". This is eye in the sense of being able to see/notice/perceive, rather than the actual organ. Compare with "Eye of Sauron", which also isn't an actual eye, but a metaphor for the endless vigilance of his servants commanded through his ceaseless will. --Mith (Talk/Contribs/Edits) 18:24, 17 March 2012 (UTC)
From Psalm 33:18: Behold, the eye of the LORD is upon them that fear him, upon them that hope in his mercy;. This Psalm is very popular and this use of the singular eye has long ago worked its way into common Christian symbolism. See https://www.google.com/search?q=bible+%22eye+of+god%22&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a#hl=en&client=firefox-a&hs=8Az&rls=org.mozilla:en-US%3Aofficial&sclient=psy-ab&q=%22eye+of+the+lord%22+-apple&oq=%22eye+of+the+lord%22+-apple&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&gs_l=serp.3...153874l159433l3l160838l12l12l2l0l0l0l120l981l7j3l10l0.frgbld.&psj=1&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_cp.r_qf.,cf.osb&fp=d70c8e76b178f69e&biw=1372&bih=573.Unsigned comment by Jallan (talk • contribs).
hmmm... An eye may well be a common Christian symbol (though, I've not come across it before), but this is not evidence that Eru, a being that exists outside the physical universe, has one eye.-- KingAragorn  talk  contribs  edits  email  18:06, 29 March 2012 (UTC)
The Eye of God or All-seeing Eye is a Christian and generally theist symbol, as seen on the US seal on a dollar. It is called Eye of Providence. Sage 17:15, 30 March 2012 (UTC)