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The region was once inhabited by a hardy [[Men|Mannish]] folk, the [[Forodwaith (people)|Forodwaith]] who gave the region its name. However in later years (possibly suffering by the [[Witch-king]] of [[Angmar]]) their [[Lossoth|remnants]] retreated to the [[Cape of Forochel]].<ref>{{App|Eriador}}</ref>   
The region was once inhabited by a hardy [[Men|Mannish]] folk, the [[Forodwaith (people)|Forodwaith]] who gave the region its name. However in later years (possibly suffering by the [[Witch-king]] of [[Angmar]]) their [[Lossoth|remnants]] retreated to the [[Cape of Forochel]].<ref>{{App|Eriador}}</ref>   


[[Dragons]] also dwelt in there.<ref>{{H|Party}}</ref> The [[Cold-drakes]] of the North, who drove the [[Dwarves of the Grey Mountains]] out of their homes, came from the Northern Waste. The Drakes killed [[Dain I]] and his son [[Frór]] outside [[Dáin's halls|their Halls]] in the [[Grey Mountains]]. Most of the Dwarves then moved to [[Lonely Mountain|Erebor]] and the [[Iron Hills]].
[[Dragons]] also dwelt in there.<ref>{{H|Party}}</ref> The [[Cold-drakes]] of the North, who drove the [[Dwarves of the Grey Mountains]] out of their homes, came from the Northern Waste. The Drakes killed [[Dain I]] and his son [[Frór]] outside [[Dáin's halls|their Halls]] in the [[Grey Mountains]]. Most of the Dwarves then moved to [[Lonely Mountain|Erebor]] and the [[Iron Hills]].<ref>{{App|Durin}}</ref>


According to Frodo's poem "[[When evening in the Shire was grey]]", [[Gandalf]] had traveled to the Northern Waste.
According to [[Frodo Baggins]]'s [[When evening in the Shire was grey|poem for Gandalf]], [[Gandalf]] had traveled to the Northern Waste.<ref>{{FR|Mirror}}</ref>
==Other versions of the Legendarium==
==Other versions of the Legendarium==
[[File:Waste vs forodwaith.png|thumb|The different definition of "Forodwaith" between the earlier and the later map.]]
[[File:Waste vs forodwaith.png|thumb|The different definitions of "Forodwaith" between the earlier and the later map.]]
In the earliest [[General Map of Middle-earth]] by [[Christopher Tolkien]], the northern portion of the [[Westlands]] is featureless, labeled as "Northern Waste", with the name "Forodwaith", in smaller letters, above the [[Mountains of Angmar]]; this seemed to suggest that Forodwaith is a part of the wider Northern Waste, if not a separate region.  
In the earliest [[General Map of Middle-earth]] by [[Christopher Tolkien]], the northern portion of the [[Westlands]] is featureless, labeled as "Northern Waste", with the name "Forodwaith", in smaller letters, above the [[Mountains of Angmar]]; this seemed to suggest that Forodwaith is a part of the wider Northern Waste, if not a smaller separate region.  


Later, Christopher Tolkien realized that the two names are synonymous. The misunderstanding was corrected in the later map known as [[The West of Middle-earth at the End of the Third Age]], where the name "Forodwaith" labels all the blank portion north of the [[Mountains of Angmar]] and the [[Grey Mountains]].<ref name=intro>{{UT|IMap}}</ref>
Later, Christopher Tolkien realized that the two names are synonymous. The misunderstanding was corrected in the later map known as [[The West of Middle-earth at the End of the Third Age]], where only the name "Forodwaith" appears, labeling all the blank portion north of the [[Mountains of Angmar]] and the [[Grey Mountains]].<ref name=intro>{{UT|IMap}}</ref>
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Revision as of 15:07, 25 November 2015

This article is about the region of Middle-earth. For the MERP supplement, see The Northern Waste.
Northern Waste
vast desolated territory
Rob Alexander - Forod.jpg
General Information
Locationabove Angmar, Mount Gundabad and Ered Mithrin
Typevast desolated territory
DescriptionIcy isolated region with very few inhabitants
RegionsForochel, Forodwaith
InhabitantsForodwaith, Orcs, Cold-drakes, Lossoth

The Northern Waste or Forodwaith (S., "Nothern lands, people") was a cold and icy region in the far north end of Middle-earth,[1] located above Mount Gundabad and the Ered Mithrin. It was a vast region of mostly snow and ice. The main known area was Forochel.

History

The Forodwaith had been made very cold earlier in Arda's history because of the presence of Utumno and Melkor's evil cold emanating from it. The region remained cold even after Utumno's destruction.

Angelo Montanini - Northern Waste

The region was once inhabited by a hardy Mannish folk, the Forodwaith who gave the region its name. However in later years (possibly suffering by the Witch-king of Angmar) their remnants retreated to the Cape of Forochel.[2]

Dragons also dwelt in there.[3] The Cold-drakes of the North, who drove the Dwarves of the Grey Mountains out of their homes, came from the Northern Waste. The Drakes killed Dain I and his son Frór outside their Halls in the Grey Mountains. Most of the Dwarves then moved to Erebor and the Iron Hills.[4]

According to Frodo Baggins's poem for Gandalf, Gandalf had traveled to the Northern Waste.[5]

Other versions of the Legendarium

The different definitions of "Forodwaith" between the earlier and the later map.

In the earliest General Map of Middle-earth by Christopher Tolkien, the northern portion of the Westlands is featureless, labeled as "Northern Waste", with the name "Forodwaith", in smaller letters, above the Mountains of Angmar; this seemed to suggest that Forodwaith is a part of the wider Northern Waste, if not a smaller separate region.

Later, Christopher Tolkien realized that the two names are synonymous. The misunderstanding was corrected in the later map known as The West of Middle-earth at the End of the Third Age, where only the name "Forodwaith" appears, labeling all the blank portion north of the Mountains of Angmar and the Grey Mountains.[6]

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