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:I don't know who posted that, but he/she is right (I think; I'm not used to reading bad grammer). The words appear as !$D2&@Gi5 or something like that. We need to at least have a link to where to download the font. --[[User:Narfil Palùrfalas|Narfil Palùrfalas]] 09:11, 20 June 2006 (EDT)<br />
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:Still not fixed. Maybe we could get an image of the table or something? That would be handy. Or a link to Dan Smith's fontspage. [[User:Ederchil|Ederchil]] 10:25, 14 January 2008 (EST)<br />
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The fonts have on the website have been deleted.</div>Caranthir33https://tolkiengateway.net/w/index.php?title=Iathrim&diff=316749Iathrim2020-07-20T11:32:45Z<p>Caranthir33: </p>
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{{people infobox<br />
| name=Iathrim<br />
| image=[[File:Anke Eißmann - The Hunting-party II.jpg|250px]]<br />
| caption="[[The Hunting-party]]" by [[Anke Eißmann]]<br />
| pronun=<br />
| othernames=Elves of Doriath<br />
| origin=[[Teleri]] and [[Green-elves]]<br />
| location=[[Doriath]]<br />
| affiliation=<br />
| rivalry=<br />
| language=[[Doriathrin]]<br />
| members=[[Amdír]], [[Amroth]]<br />
| lifespan=immortal<br />
| distinctions=<br />
| height=<br />
| hair=<br />
| skin=<br />
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The '''Iathrim''' or '''Elves of Doriath''' were those [[Sindar]] that lived in the broad forests of central [[Beleriand]], [[Neldoreth]], and [[Forest of Region|Region]], under the Kingship of [[Thingol|Elu Thingol]] and later [[Dior|Dior Eluchíl]]. These people, whose [[Melian|Queen]] was of the order of the [[Maiar]] and whose King was the High King of the Sindar, were held to be the highest and noblest of the [[Sindar|Grey-elven]] kindred.<br />
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The [[Marchwardens]] were those Elves assigned to guarding the borders of the forest of Doriath.<ref>{{S|Turin}}</ref><br />
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After the [[Ruin of Doriath]], [[Elwing]] led the survivors to the [[Mouths of Sirion]].<br />
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==Etymology==<br />
''Iathrim'' is [[Sindarin]] for "People of the Fence", as is a compound of ''[[iath]]'' ("fence") and the class-plural suffix ''-[[rim]]''.<ref>{{WJ|B}}, p. 378</ref><br />
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{{references}}<br />
[[Category:Elven peoples]]<br />
[[Category:Sindar]]</div>Caranthir33https://tolkiengateway.net/w/index.php?title=Talk:Ithilien&diff=316715Talk:Ithilien2020-07-19T13:39:56Z<p>Caranthir33: Created page with "I removed two unnessecary images. Hope this was ok"</p>
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{{location infobox| name=Ithilien| image=[[File:Mark Fisher - Ithilien.png|250px]]| caption=| pronun=| othernames=Arnen| location=A narrow land between the river [[Anduin]] in the west and the mountains of [[Ephel Dúath]] in the east| type=Region/fief| description=The fair province of [[Gondor]]| regions=[[North Ithilien|North]] and [[South Ithilien|South]]| towns=[[Emyn Arnen]], [[Henneth Annûn]], [[Minas Ithil]]| inhabitants=Primarily [[Gondorians]] (briefly inhabited by [[Silvan Elves]] in the [[Fourth Age]])| created=| destroyed=| rebuilt=| events=[[Fall of Minas Ithil]]}}'''Ithilien''' ([[Sindarin|S]], pron. {{IPA|[iˈθiljen]}}) was a region and fiefdom of [[Gondor]]. <br />
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==Geography==<br />
[[Image:Ted_Nasmith_-_First_Sight_of_Ithilien.jpg|right|thumb|[[Ted Nasmith]] - ''First Sight of Ithilien'']]<br />
Ithilien was the only part of Gondor on the eastern side of the [[Anduin]], wedged in between the river and the [[Ephel Dúath]]. The northern border must have been around the [[Dead Marshes]] and its southern border was the river [[Poros]]. The region was further divided into [[North Ithilien|North]] and [[South Ithilien]] (the division was made at or near the [[Cross-roads]]).<br />
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[[Iris]]es, [[Anemones]], [[Eglantine]], [[lilies]], [[water-lilies]] and [[Asphodel]] grew in Ithilien<ref>{{TT|Herbs}}</ref>. [[Lebethron]]<ref>{{TT|Journey}}</ref> and [[Culumalda]] grew especially in the woods around the [[Field of Cormallen]].<ref name=RC>{{HM|RC}}, pp. 625-6 (citing from the [[Unfinished index]])</ref><ref name=SApp>{{S|Appendix}} (entry for ''mal-'')</ref><br />
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==History==<br />
===Early History===<br />
Historians in [[Gondor]] believed that, in the [[First Age]], the [[Drúedain|Woses]] reached the region and were the first to cross the [[Anduin]] (probably near [[Cair Andros]]).<ref>{{UT|Druedain}}</ref><br />
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Old records preserved in [[Gondor]] indicate that the name ''Arnen'' was once used for the larger part of the region during the [[Second Age]].<ref>{{VT|42a}}, p. 17</ref><br />
When [[Elendil]] and his sons founded the [[Realms in Exile]], Ithilien took its name after his son, [[Isildur]]. Of old, its chief city was ''Minas Ithil'', the Tower of the Moon. It was briefly captured by [[Sauron]] in {{SA|3429}} but was restored. Ithilien was a fair and prosperous land during the [[Second Age]] and the first part of the [[Third Age]] when Gondor was strong and Mordor deserted. <br />
<br />
===Easterling Invasions===<br />
In {{TA|541}} [[Easterlings]] invaded northern Ithilien and King [[Rómendacil I]] was killed .<ref name="TA"/><br />
[[Amon Dîn]] was used as a fortified outpost of Minas Tirith keeping watch over the passage into North Ithilien from [[Dagorlad]] and any attempt by enemies to cross the [[Anduin]] near [[Cair Andros]].<ref name="Cirion">{{UT|Cirion}}</ref><ref>{{HM|RC}}, p. 510</ref> The [[Tower of Cirith Ungol]] was also defending Ithilien from attacks from Sauron's remaining servants and stopped them from returning to Mordor, guarding the high pass over the [[Ephel Dúath]]. Gondor occupied the fortress until {{TA|1636}} when the [[Great Plague]] killed large parts of the population. During the plague, most of the people of [[Osgiliath]] fled the city for the western dales or the woods of Ithilien.<br />
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After the disastrous [[Battle of the Plains]] in {{TA|1856}}, Ithilien was the only land east of the river Anduin to be occupied as the others were abandoned.<br />
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In {{TA|1899}}, Marhwini warned [[Calimehtar (King of Gondor)|King Calimehtar]] that the [[Wainriders]] were plotting to raid [[Calenardhon]] over the [[Undeeps]]. Calimehtar, therefore, provoked the Wainriders out of Ithilien, and his horsemen, joined by a large [[éored]] led by [[Marhwini]], drove the Wainriders back.<ref name="Cirion"/><br />
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In {{TA|1944}}, [[Wainriders]] from [[Rhûn]] made an alliance with the [[Haradrim]], and a dual attack on Ithilien was launched. While the Wainriders assaulted Ithilien from the north, the armies of the Haradrim crossed the [[Poros]] and invaded [[South Ithilien]]. The Gondorian [[Captain of the Southern Army|Captain]] [[Earnil II|Eärnil]] leading Gondor's inferior [[Southern Army]], defeated the Haradrim, and then turned north, [[Battle of the Camp|took]] the Wainriders into surprise and pushed many of them into the swamplands of the [[Dead Marshes]].<ref name=gondor>{{App|Gondor}}</ref> <br />
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===Deserting===<br />
When Minas Ithil was captured by Mordor in {{TA|2002}} it was renamed [[Minas Morgul]], the Tower of Black Sorcery, a place of dread, and the remaining [[Gondorians]] deserted Ithilien.<ref name=gondor/><br />
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During the [[Watchful Peace]] the lords of Morgul had secretly bred the [[Uruk-hai]], and in {{TA|2475}} these creatures assailed and overran Ithilien, captured [[Osgiliath]]. [[Boromir (Steward of Gondor)|Boromir]] defeated the host of Morgul and regained Ithilien. However, from that time on no people dwelt in that region, and for Gondor, there was never full peace again until after the defeat of Sauron.<ref name=stew>{{App|Stewards}}</ref><br />
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In the days of Steward [[Túrin II]] Ithilien was infested by [[Mordor-orcs]] and more people fled west of the [[Anduin]]; only the hardest people remained. Túrin built secret refuges around Ithilien for his soldiers.<ref name=stew/><br />
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In {{TA|2885}}, Ithilien was invaded in great strength of [[Haradrim]] from [[South Gondor]]. With the aid of King [[Folcwine]] of [[Rohan]] Túrin won a victory at the [[Crossings of Poros]], though the princes [[Fastred (son of Folcwine)|Fastred]] and [[Folcred]] were slain.<ref name=TA>{{App|TA}}</ref><br />
[[File:Ted Nasmith - Henneth Annûn.jpg|thumb|[[Ted Nasmith]] - ''Henneth Annun'']]<br />
The majority of the people of Ithilien fled across the [[Anduin]] to escape further attacks by [[Uruks]] from Mordor ({{TA|2901}})<ref name=TA/>, but Túrin still kept scouts there, operating out of secret locations such as [[Henneth Annûn]]. [[Sauron]] returned to [[Mordor]] in {{TA|2951}}, and the remaining people started abandoning the area, and those who stayed fled to regions such as [[Lossarnach]] when [[Mount Doom]] erupted in {{TA|2954}}.<ref name=stew/><ref name=TA/> Steward [[Ecthelion II]] constructed the [[Rammas Echor]] as part of the now necessary defenses of [[Gondor]].<ref>{{HM|RC}}, p. 546</ref> The descendants of the people who had dwelt in Ithilien, formed the corps of the [[Rangers of Ithilien]].<br />
<br />
===War of the Ring===<br />
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During the [[War of the Ring]], in early March {{TA|3019}}, [[Faramir]] the son of the Steward [[Denethor]], was leading the [[Rangers of Ithilien]] to ambush Haradrim who would pass through Ithilien. That same time, [[Gollum]] led [[Frodo Baggins]] and [[Samwise Gamgee]] through Ithilien on their way to [[Cirith Ungol]] and into Mordor, and Faramir allowed them to continue when he was satisfied they were not agents of [[Sauron]].<br />
[[File:Alan Lee - Oliphaunt.jpg|thumb|"Oliphaunt" by [[Alan Lee]]]]<br />
When the [[Host of the West]] marched on the [[Morannon]], [[Mablung (ranger of Ithilien)|Mablung]] and his troops discovered an ambush by Orcs and Easterlings that lay hid in Ithilien. The ambush was quickly turned.<ref>{{RK|V10}}</ref><br />
[[File:Angus McBride - Ambush.jpg|thumb|left|[[Angus McBride]] - ''Ambush'']]<br />
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===Later History===<br />
During the [[Fourth Age]], Ithilien was ruled by the [[Prince of Ithilien|Princes of Ithilien]], a line that started with Faramir and [[Éowyn]], who became known as the White Lady of Ithilien. Minas Morgul was not repopulated. As the Prince of Ithilien, Faramir dwelt in a fair new house in Emyn Arnen, whose gardens devised by Legolas were renowned.<ref>{{PM|Elendil}} </ref><br />
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After the fall of Sauron, around {{FoA|20}},<ref name=cormallen>{{RK|Cormallen}}</ref> Legolas brought south [[Elves of Mirkwood]], and they dwelt in Ithilien, and it became once again the fairest country in all the Westlands.<ref name=durin>{{App|Durin}}</ref> They stayed in Ithilien for "a hundred years of Men."<ref name=cormallen/> After King Aragorn died, Legolas sailed West, reportedly taking Gimli with him, and with them left numerous other [[Elves]].<ref name=cormallen/><ref name=durin/><br />
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==Etymology==<br />
{{Pronounce|Ithilien.mp3|Ardamir}}<br />
''Ithilien'' is a [[Sindarin]] name meaning "land of the moon"<ref>{{HM|UI}}, p. 233</ref> reflecting the name of its ruler, [[Isildur]], and its capital [[Minas Ithil]]. <br />
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It has been suggested that the name consists of the elements ''[[Moon#Other names|Ithil]]'' ("moon") + the affix ''[[-nd|end]]''.<ref>[http://www.tolkiendil.com/langues/english/i-lam_arth/compound_sindarin_names Compound Sindarin Names in Middle-earth] at [http://www.tolkiendil.com Tolkiendil.com] (accessed 20 July 2011)</ref><br />
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{{FellowshipRoute}}<br />
[[Category:Regions]]<br />
[[Category:Gondor]]<br />
[[Category:Sindarin locations]]<br />
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{{location infobox| name=Ithilien| image=[[File:Mark Fisher - Ithilien.png|250px]]| caption=| pronun=| othernames=Arnen| location=A narrow land between the river [[Anduin]] in the west and the mountains of [[Ephel Dúath]] in the east| type=Region/fief| description=The fair province of [[Gondor]]| regions=[[North Ithilien|North]] and [[South Ithilien|South]]| towns=[[Emyn Arnen]], [[Henneth Annûn]], [[Minas Ithil]]| inhabitants=Primarily [[Gondorians]] (briefly inhabited by [[Silvan Elves]] in the [[Fourth Age]])| created=| destroyed=| rebuilt=| events=[[Fall of Minas Ithil]]}}'''Ithilien''' ([[Sindarin|S]], pron. {{IPA|[iˈθiljen]}}) was a region and fiefdom of [[Gondor]]. <br />
<br />
==Geography==<br />
[[Image:Ted_Nasmith_-_First_Sight_of_Ithilien.jpg|right|thumb|[[Ted Nasmith]] - ''First Sight of Ithilien'']]<br />
Ithilien was the only part of Gondor on the eastern side of the [[Anduin]], wedged in between the river and the [[Ephel Dúath]]. The northern border must have been around the [[Dead Marshes]] and its southern border was the river [[Poros]]. The region was further divided into [[North Ithilien|North]] and [[South Ithilien]] (the division was made at or near the [[Cross-roads]]).<br />
<br />
[[Iris]]es, [[Anemones]], [[Eglantine]], [[lilies]], [[water-lilies]] and [[Asphodel]] grew in Ithilien<ref>{{TT|Herbs}}</ref>. [[Lebethron]]<ref>{{TT|Journey}}</ref> and [[Culumalda]] grew especially in the woods around the [[Field of Cormallen]].<ref name=RC>{{HM|RC}}, pp. 625-6 (citing from the [[Unfinished index]])</ref><ref name=SApp>{{S|Appendix}} (entry for ''mal-'')</ref><br />
<br />
==History==<br />
===Early History===<br />
Historians in [[Gondor]] believed that, in the [[First Age]], the [[Drúedain|Woses]] reached the region and were the first to cross the [[Anduin]] (probably near [[Cair Andros]]).<ref>{{UT|Druedain}}</ref><br />
<br />
Old records preserved in [[Gondor]] indicate that the name ''Arnen'' was once used for the larger part of the region during the [[Second Age]].<ref>{{VT|42a}}, p. 17</ref><br />
When [[Elendil]] and his sons founded the [[Realms in Exile]], Ithilien took its name after his son, [[Isildur]]. Of old, its chief city was ''Minas Ithil'', the Tower of the Moon. It was briefly captured by [[Sauron]] in {{SA|3429}} but was restored. Ithilien was a fair and prosperous land during the [[Second Age]] and the first part of the [[Third Age]] when Gondor was strong and Mordor deserted. <br />
<br />
===Easterling Invasions===<br />
In {{TA|541}} [[Easterlings]] invaded northern Ithilien and King [[Rómendacil I]] was killed .<ref name="TA"/><br />
[[File:Alan Lee - Cirith Ungol.jpg|left|thumb|"Cirith Ungol" by [[Alan Lee]]]]<br />
[[Amon Dîn]] was used as a fortified outpost of Minas Tirith keeping watch over the passage into North Ithilien from [[Dagorlad]] and any attempt by enemies to cross the [[Anduin]] near [[Cair Andros]].<ref name="Cirion">{{UT|Cirion}}</ref><ref>{{HM|RC}}, p. 510</ref> The [[Tower of Cirith Ungol]] was also defending Ithilien from attacks from Sauron's remaining servants and stopped them from returning to Mordor, guarding the high pass over the [[Ephel Dúath]]. Gondor occupied the fortress until {{TA|1636}} when the [[Great Plague]] killed large parts of the population. During the plague, most of the people of [[Osgiliath]] fled the city for the western dales or the woods of Ithilien.<br />
<br />
After the disastrous [[Battle of the Plains]] in {{TA|1856}}, Ithilien was the only land east of the river Anduin to be occupied as the others were abandoned.<br />
<br />
In {{TA|1899}}, Marhwini warned [[Calimehtar (King of Gondor)|King Calimehtar]] that the [[Wainriders]] were plotting to raid [[Calenardhon]] over the [[Undeeps]]. Calimehtar, therefore, provoked the Wainriders out of Ithilien, and his horsemen, joined by a large [[éored]] led by [[Marhwini]], drove the Wainriders back.<ref name="Cirion"/><br />
<br />
In {{TA|1944}}, [[Wainriders]] from [[Rhûn]] made an alliance with the [[Haradrim]], and a dual attack on Ithilien was launched. While the Wainriders assaulted Ithilien from the north, the armies of the Haradrim crossed the [[Poros]] and invaded [[South Ithilien]]. The Gondorian [[Captain of the Southern Army|Captain]] [[Earnil II|Eärnil]] leading Gondor's inferior [[Southern Army]], defeated the Haradrim, and then turned north, [[Battle of the Camp|took]] the Wainriders into surprise and pushed many of them into the swamplands of the [[Dead Marshes]].<ref name=gondor>{{App|Gondor}}</ref> <br />
<br />
===Deserting===<br />
When Minas Ithil was captured by Mordor in {{TA|2002}} it was renamed [[Minas Morgul]], the Tower of Black Sorcery, a place of dread, and the remaining [[Gondorians]] deserted Ithilien.<ref name=gondor/><br />
<br />
During the [[Watchful Peace]] the lords of Morgul had secretly bred the [[Uruk-hai]], and in {{TA|2475}} these creatures assailed and overran Ithilien, captured [[Osgiliath]]. [[Boromir (Steward of Gondor)|Boromir]] defeated the host of Morgul and regained Ithilien. However, from that time on no people dwelt in that region, and for Gondor, there was never full peace again until after the defeat of Sauron.<ref name=stew>{{App|Stewards}}</ref><br />
<br />
In the days of Steward [[Túrin II]] Ithilien was infested by [[Mordor-orcs]] and more people fled west of the [[Anduin]]; only the hardest people remained. Túrin built secret refuges around Ithilien for his soldiers.<ref name=stew/><br />
<br />
In {{TA|2885}}, Ithilien was invaded in great strength of [[Haradrim]] from [[South Gondor]]. With the aid of King [[Folcwine]] of [[Rohan]] Túrin won a victory at the [[Crossings of Poros]], though the princes [[Fastred (son of Folcwine)|Fastred]] and [[Folcred]] were slain.<ref name=TA>{{App|TA}}</ref><br />
[[File:Ted Nasmith - Henneth Annûn.jpg|thumb|[[Ted Nasmith]] - ''Henneth Annun'']]<br />
The majority of the people of Ithilien fled across the [[Anduin]] to escape further attacks by [[Uruks]] from Mordor ({{TA|2901}})<ref name=TA/>, but Túrin still kept scouts there, operating out of secret locations such as [[Henneth Annûn]]. [[Sauron]] returned to [[Mordor]] in {{TA|2951}}, and the remaining people started abandoning the area, and those who stayed fled to regions such as [[Lossarnach]] when [[Mount Doom]] erupted in {{TA|2954}}.<ref name=stew/><ref name=TA/> Steward [[Ecthelion II]] constructed the [[Rammas Echor]] as part of the now necessary defenses of [[Gondor]].<ref>{{HM|RC}}, p. 546</ref> The descendants of the people who had dwelt in Ithilien, formed the corps of the [[Rangers of Ithilien]].<br />
<br />
===War of the Ring===<br />
<br />
During the [[War of the Ring]], in early March {{TA|3019}}, [[Faramir]] the son of the Steward [[Denethor]], was leading the [[Rangers of Ithilien]] to ambush Haradrim who would pass through Ithilien. That same time, [[Gollum]] led [[Frodo Baggins]] and [[Samwise Gamgee]] through Ithilien on their way to [[Cirith Ungol]] and into Mordor, and Faramir allowed them to continue when he was satisfied they were not agents of [[Sauron]].<br />
[[File:Alan Lee - Oliphaunt.jpg|thumb|"Oliphaunt" by [[Alan Lee]]]]<br />
When the [[Host of the West]] marched on the [[Morannon]], [[Mablung (ranger of Ithilien)|Mablung]] and his troops discovered an ambush by Orcs and Easterlings that lay hid in Ithilien. The ambush was quickly turned.<ref>{{RK|V10}}</ref><br />
[[File:Angus McBride - Ambush.jpg|thumb|left|[[Angus McBride]] - ''Ambush'']]<br />
<br />
===Later History===<br />
During the [[Fourth Age]], Ithilien was ruled by the [[Prince of Ithilien|Princes of Ithilien]], a line that started with Faramir and [[Éowyn]], who became known as the White Lady of Ithilien. Minas Morgul was not repopulated. As the Prince of Ithilien, Faramir dwelt in a fair new house in Emyn Arnen, whose gardens devised by Legolas were renowned.<ref>{{PM|Elendil}} </ref><br />
<br />
After the fall of Sauron, around {{FoA|20}},<ref name=cormallen>{{RK|Cormallen}}</ref> Legolas brought south [[Elves of Mirkwood]], and they dwelt in Ithilien, and it became once again the fairest country in all the Westlands.<ref name=durin>{{App|Durin}}</ref> They stayed in Ithilien for "a hundred years of Men."<ref name=cormallen/> After King Aragorn died, Legolas sailed West, reportedly taking Gimli with him, and with them left numerous other [[Elves]].<ref name=cormallen/><ref name=durin/><br />
<br />
==Etymology==<br />
{{Pronounce|Ithilien.mp3|Ardamir}}<br />
''Ithilien'' is a [[Sindarin]] name meaning "land of the moon"<ref>{{HM|UI}}, p. 233</ref> reflecting the name of its ruler, [[Isildur]], and its capital [[Minas Ithil]]. <br />
<br />
It has been suggested that the name consists of the elements ''[[Moon#Other names|Ithil]]'' ("moon") + the affix ''[[-nd|end]]''.<ref>[http://www.tolkiendil.com/langues/english/i-lam_arth/compound_sindarin_names Compound Sindarin Names in Middle-earth] at [http://www.tolkiendil.com Tolkiendil.com] (accessed 20 July 2011)</ref><br />
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{{references}}<br />
{{FellowshipRoute}}<br />
[[Category:Regions]]<br />
[[Category:Gondor]]<br />
[[Category:Sindarin locations]]<br />
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| titles=[[Thain]] of [[the Shire]]<br />
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| location=[[The Shire]]<br />
| affiliation=<br />
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| birth=before {{SR|740}}<br />
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| rule=from {{SR|740}}<br />
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| notablefor=<br />
| family=[[Took Family|Took]]<br />
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'''Isumbras Took''' was a the thirteenth [[Thain]] of [[the Shire]].<br />
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==History==<br />
Isumbras was elected Thain in {{SR|740}},<ref>{{App|TA}}</ref> after [[Gorhendad Oldbuck]] relocated to [[Buckland]].<ref>{{FR|I5}}</ref> From then on, the Thain was a title held by the [[Took Family]].<ref>{{App|Took}}</ref><br />
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==Etymology==<br />
"Isumbras" is of French and [[Old English|Anglo-Saxon]] origin and means "iron-arm". It comes from the French ''bras'' meaning "arm", and the Anglo-Saxon and Middle High German word ''[[isen]]'' which means "iron".<ref>[[Jim Allan]], ''[[An Introduction to Elvish]]'', "Giving of Names"</ref><br />
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[[J.R.R. Tolkien|Tolkien]] likely got the name from ''[[wikipedia:Sir Isumbras|Sir Isumbras]]'', an English medieval romance about a man who suffers a lifetime of hardship but who finds happiness in his latter years.<br />
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| list=13th [[Thain]] of [[the Shire]]<br />
| dates={{SR|740}} - unknown<br />
| nvac=Unknown<br />
| next=eventually [[Isengrim Took I]]<br />
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<div>Could someone summarize "Ancestry" and "Connection to Finarfin" in one section? I think this would be helpful to give a better overview on this page.<br />
Ok never mind i`ve done it myself.</div>Caranthir33https://tolkiengateway.net/w/index.php?title=Gildor&diff=316020Gildor2020-06-24T08:12:27Z<p>Caranthir33: </p>
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{{quote|Elves seldom give unguarded advice, for advice is a dangerous gift, even from the wise to the wise, and all courses may run ill.|Gildor Inglorion<ref name="3IC">{{FR|I3}}</ref>}}<br />
'''Gildor Inglorion''' was a [[Noldor|Noldorin]] [[Elves|Elf]] of the [[House of Finrod]], who in the [[Third Age]] lived in [[Rivendell]]. <br />
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==History==<br />
Gildor was probably the son of some [[Inglor]]<ref name=halls>{{webcite|author=Matt Light, Lowell R. Matthews|articleurl=http://www.guildcompanion.com/scrolls/2000/jul/gildorshalls.html|articlename=Gildor's Halls|dated=2000|website=The Tolkien List}}</ref> and one of the [[Exile of the Noldor|Exiles]] of the House of Finrod. It's possible that he was from around Rivendell.<ref>{{RGEO|Elbereth}}</ref><br />
[[File:Alan Lee - Feasting with the Elves.jpg|thumb|left|"Feasting with the Elves" by [[Alan Lee]]]]<br />
Elven [[Wandering Companies]] crossed the [[Shire]] every Spring and Autumn. Around [[September]] {{TA|3001}}, as [[Bilbo Baggins]] was leaving the Shire for Rivendell, Gildor met the [[hobbit]] as he waved them farewell in [[Woody End]]. The following years he met him once more, perhaps at Rivendell.<ref name="3IC"/><ref name=halls/><br />
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In September {{TA|3018}}, he traveled eastwards with a company of Elves of Rivendell. They were returning from the [[Emyn Beraid]], where they went to see [[Varda|Elbereth]] in the ''[[Elostirion-stone|palantír]]'' that was kept there. On the [[24 September|24th]], they met [[Frodo Baggins]], [[Samwise Gamgee]] and [[Peregrin Took]] on the road near the Woody End. He rejoiced after hearing Frodo's [[Elen síla lúmenn’ omentielvo|Quenya greeting]]. They ate and sang, and Gildor discussed the peril that haunted the three [[hobbits]]. This peril, a [[Nazgûl|Black Rider]], was near, but fled as he heard the Elves chant of Elbereth. Because of Frodo's ability to speak [[Elvish]], Gildor gave him the title [[Elf-friends|Elf-friend]].<ref name="3IC"/><br />
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After separating from the hobbits, he sent word to the house of [[Tom Bombadil]], probably before the [[26 September|26th]].<ref>{{FR|I7}}</ref> He also spoke with [[Aragorn]]<ref>{{FR|I10}}</ref> and sent a message to [[Elrond]].<ref>{{FR|I12}}</ref><br />
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Two years later, on [[22 September|September 22]], {{TA|3021}}, he met the Hobbits once again. He accompanied a riding of great Lords and Ladies, that planned to sail [[Aman|West]] on board the [[White Ship]]<ref>{{RK|VI9}}</ref> and probably he was among the Elves who sailed to the West.<ref>{{HM|Guide}}, entry "Gildor Inglorion"</ref><ref group=note>The narrative does not specify whether Gildor also boarded the ship to the West or if he was simply present as a companion.</ref><br />
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==Etymology==<br />
The meaning of ''Gildor'' is not given, but it can be deduce it is [[Sindarin]] "Star Lord", from [[gil]] ("star") + -dor ("lord, king").<ref>{{webcite|author=Paul Strack|articleurl=http://eldamo.org/content/words/word-879448255.html|articlename=S. ''Gildor'' m.|dated=|website=Eldamo|accessed=15 December 2019}}</ref><br />
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Same with ''Inglorion'', which means "Son of Inglor", from ''[[-ion]]'' ("son of"), leading to the genealogical discussion explained below.<br />
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==Ancestry==<br />
Gildor is one of the less prominently featured Elves, yet he seems important enough to raise questions concerning his lineage, or the identity of this character. Gildor calls himself "Gildor Inglorion of the House of Finrod". He also says: "''We are [[Exile of the Noldor|Exiles]], and most of our kindred have long departed and we too are only tarrying here a while, ere we return over the [[Belegaer|Great Sea]].''"<ref name="3IC"/> <br />
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It should be noted that Tolkien initially used names from his (unpublished) ''[[The Silmarillion]]'' writings rather at random in ''[[The Hobbit]]'' and the first drafts of the sequel which would become ''The Lord of the Rings'': other examples are the mention of [[Gondolin]] and the appearance of [[Elrond]] in ''The Hobbit'', which were only later brought into alignment with ''The Lord of the Rings'' and the unpublished mythology by a third edition of the book.<ref name="L257">{{L|257}}</ref> This therefore is the case of the reference to the name "Finrod".<br />
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The name "Gildor" first appeared in the outlines of ''[[The Lord of the Rings]]'' in February [[1938]],<ref>{{RS|Hobbiton}} (p. 45)</ref> and in Tolkien's notes of that time, "Finrod" still meant the character later known as [[Finarfin]]<ref name="RC3IC">{{HM|RC}}, "[[Three is Company]]", pages 103-4</ref> and [[Finrod|his son]] had the older name "[[Inglor]]".<br />
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However the name ''[[Inglor]]'' reappeared, in [[Quenya]] form, for Finarfin (who in the earlier legendarium, was named Finrod). Finarfin's [[Amilessë|mother-name]] was ''[[Ingalaurë]]''.<ref>{{PM|Shibboleth}}, note 30</ref> If Ingalaurë is to be translated in [[Sindarin]] according to the [[Sindarization|sound-changing rules]], this would become ''Inglor''. Thus, the connection of Gildor to the house of Finrod/Finarfin still remains in the updated legendarium.<br />
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This all suggests that, while Gildor might have been initially intended to be Felagund's son, in the final version he probably became a member of the House of Finrod as one of its servants, not one of its sons — perhaps one of the knights of [[Nargothrond]].<br />
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It is also possible that he was a son of a supposed "Inglor" — a character unconnected to Finrod Felagund.<br />
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==Portrayal in adaptations==<br />
{{Gallery<br />
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|File:The Lord of the Rings - The Fellowship of the Ring - Elves leaving Middle-earth.jpg|Elves leaving Middle-earth in {{fotree}}<br />
|File:The Lord of the Rings Trading Card Game - Gildor Inglorion, of the House of Finrod.jpg|Gildor Inglorion in ''[[The Lord of the Rings Trading Card Game]]''<br />
|File:The Lord of the Rings Online - Gildor.JPG|Gildor Inglorion in ''[[The Lord of the Rings Online]]''<br />
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'''1978: [[The Lord of the Rings (1978 film)|''The Lord of the Rings'' (1978 film)]]:'''<br />
:[[Legolas]], here an Elf of Rivendell, tells Strider that Elrond had received news of the burden, but it is left unexplained how.<br />
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'''1981: [[The Lord of the Rings (1981 radio series)|''The Lord of the Rings'' (1981 radio series)]]:'''<br />
:Adapter [[Brian Sibley]] wanted to use as much of the original Elvish lines as possible. This meant that the heavily wounded Frodo told the line ''Elen síla lúmenn' omentielvo'' to Glorfindel instead. <br />
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'''2001: ''[[The Lord of the Rings: The Fellowship of the Ring]]'':''' <br />
:A scene that was shot on the third day of principal photography, "[[The Passing of the Elves]]", is a reference to this passage in the book. It was eventually cut from the theatrical release to postpone the introduction of [[Elves]] to [[Rivendell]].<ref name="PJ">[[Peter Jackson]], [[Fran Walsh]], [[Philippa Boyens]] (adaptors), [[The Lord of the Rings: The Fellowship of the Ring (extended edition)|''The Lord of the Rings: The Fellowship of the Ring'' (extended edition)]], "[[The Passing of the Elves]]", Directors' Commentary</ref> In the scene, Frodo and Sam have a meal when Frodo notices Elves in the distance. No interaction is made, and the Elves travel ''to'' the Grey Havens, not from the [[Emyn Beraid]] to [[Rivendell]].<ref>[[Peter Jackson]], [[Fran Walsh]], [[Philippa Boyens]] (adaptors), [[The Lord of the Rings: The Fellowship of the Ring (extended edition)|''The Lord of the Rings: The Fellowship of the Ring'' (extended edition)]], "[[The Passing of the Elves]]"</ref> They overhear the Elves singing a sad song, which is in fact a translation into [[Sindarin]] of [[J.R.R. Tolkien|Tolkien]]'s ''[[Elven Hymn to Elbereth]]''.<ref> [[Ryszard Derdzinski]] (ed.), "[http://www.elvish.org/gwaith/movie_soundtrack_fotr.htm#elbereth The Fellowship of the Ring Soundtrack Analysis]", [[Gwaith i-Phethdain]]</ref> Jackson meant for this scene to invoke the sadness of the Elves leaving Middle-earth.<ref name="PJ"/><br />
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'''2001-2007: ''[[The Lord of the Rings Trading Card Game]]'':'''<br />
: Despite not featuring in [[The Lord of the Rings (film series)|''The Lord of the Rings'' film series]], Decipher produced a card depicting the character.<br />
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'''2002: [[The Lord of the Rings: The Fellowship of the Ring (video game)|''The Lord of the Rings: The Fellowship of the Ring'' (video game)]]:'''<br />
:This video game features both [[Tom Bombadil]] and [[Glorfindel]]. Tom apparently knows nothing of Frodo carrying the Ring, yet Glorfindel does - he is sent out by Elrond. Elrond had received a message, but from whom this message came is left untold.<br />
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'''2007: ''[[The Lord of the Rings Online]]'':'''<br />
:Gildor makes a brief appearance in the [[Bree-land Introduction#Hobbit Summary|Hobbit introduction]] to the ''[[The Lord of the Rings Online: Shadows of Angmar|Shadows of Angmar]]'' driving out a [[Nazgûl|Black Rider]] in [[the Shire]]. <br />
:He is also the representative for the elves for the Council of the North in the third book to the ''Shadows of Angmar'': ''[[The Council of the North]]'' and appears in Chapter five, "Tending the Glade".<br />
:Besides the epic story line, players can find him in the Elven refuge Lin Giliath near [[Esteldín]] in the [[North Downs]].<br />
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[[Category:Noldor]]<br />
[[Category:Characters in The Lord of the Rings]]<br />
[[Category:House of Finarfin]]<br />
[[Category:First Age characters]]<br />
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