https://tolkiengateway.net/w/api.php?hidebots=1&urlversion=1&days=7&limit=50&target=Of_the_Coming_of_Men_into_the_West&action=feedrecentchanges&feedformat=atomTolkien Gateway - Changes related to "Of the Coming of Men into the West" [en]2024-03-28T12:28:37ZRelated changesMediaWiki 1.39.3https://tolkiengateway.net/w/index.php?title=Of_the_Rings_of_Power_and_the_Third_Age&diff=388325&oldid=360046Of the Rings of Power and the Third Age2024-03-25T05:32:41Z<p>Katherine --> Katharine</p>
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</table>Éowynhttps://tolkiengateway.net/w/index.php?title=Beren&diff=388301&oldid=388300Beren2024-03-24T09:56:40Z<p><span dir="auto"><span class="autocomment">Inspiration: </span> Better</span></p>
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</table>LorenzoCBhttps://tolkiengateway.net/w/index.php?title=Beren&diff=388300&oldid=388299Beren2024-03-24T01:31:11Z<p><span dir="auto"><span class="autocomment">Inspiration: </span> Moved to after the paragraph about the name</span></p>
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<tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>The story of Beren and Lúthien, though mentioned only briefly in ''[[The Lord of the Rings]]'', was a central part of the [[Legendarium]]. Tolkien once referred to it as "the kernel of the mythology".<ref>{{L|165}}</ref> He went on to say that it "arose from a small woodland glade filled with 'hemlocks'", which he visited while serving in the Humber Garrison in 1918 (during [[World War I]]).</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>The story of Beren and Lúthien, though mentioned only briefly in ''[[The Lord of the Rings]]'', was a central part of the [[Legendarium]]. Tolkien once referred to it as "the kernel of the mythology".<ref>{{L|165}}</ref> He went on to say that it "arose from a small woodland glade filled with 'hemlocks'", which he visited while serving in the Humber Garrison in 1918 (during [[World War I]]).</div></td></tr>
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<tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Tolkien seemed to be somehow connected to this character, and parallels can be drawn with his relationship with [[Edith Tolkien|Edith Bratt]]. Furthermore it is possible that ''Beren'' (meaning 'brave') is a reference to the original meaning of his Germanic surname (Toll kühn) of similar meaning. It is said that, like the story of Lúthien dancing in the woods before Beren, that one day while Tolkien and his wife were on a picnic in the woods she danced for him, thus creating another parallel to Beren and Luthien.</div></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Tolkien seemed to be somehow connected to this character, and parallels can be drawn with his relationship with [[Edith Tolkien|Edith Bratt]]. Furthermore it is possible that ''Beren'' (meaning 'brave') is a reference to the original meaning of his Germanic surname (Toll kühn) of similar meaning. It is said that, like the story of Lúthien dancing in the woods before Beren, that one day while Tolkien and his wife were on a picnic in the woods she danced for him, thus creating another parallel to Beren and Luthien. </div></td></tr>
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</table>Oromëhttps://tolkiengateway.net/w/index.php?title=Beren&diff=388299&oldid=388298Beren2024-03-24T01:20:06Z<p>Not etymological note</p>
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</table>Sagehttps://tolkiengateway.net/w/index.php?title=Beren&diff=388298&oldid=387345Beren2024-03-24T00:56:43Z<p><span dir="auto"><span class="autocomment">Etymology: </span> New research from John Garth</span></p>
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