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Mannish "King", TÛR

A bit too speculative for my taste, tbf. -- Ederchil 04:31, 12 August 2008 (EDT)


To Durin? (Which redirects here anyway.) --Mith (Talk/Contribs/Edits) 14:40, 21 July 2011 (UTC)

Yes, that would be better, imho.--Morgan 15:47, 21 July 2011 (UTC)
And merge with The Deathless. -- Ederchil (Talk/Contribs/Edits) 20:52, 21 July 2011 (UTC)
Indeed, +1 one on that too.--Morgan 21:00, 21 July 2011 (UTC)


I don't get why Durin should have reached the an age of "at least 2395 years". He was born several years before the Dwarves entered Beleriand in 1250 Y.T., alright. Where on earth do these 2395 years come from? It's the remaining time until Sun and Moon are created. But I don't how this is connected. He died before the First Age ended, indeed, but this actually means he could have died already in 1251 Y.T. There's absolutely NO evidence that he survived the Trees (except if there's mentioned somewhere that he knew Sun and Moon). --Thalion 20:42, 8 December 2011 (UTC)