Talk:Ephel Brandir

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Latest comment: 8 September 2022 by Dour1234 in topic Merge proposal

Merge proposal[edit source]

What do you all think about the names "Ephel Brandir" and "Obel Halad"? It really seems to me that they are not two separate settlements, but rather that Obel Halad replaced Ephel Brandir in the writing. There are certain details about both of them that are contradictory if they are two settlements. One was the capital of Brethil and the other was the main settlement of Brethil. The Hall of the Chieftains was in Obel Halad, yet Brandir lived in Ephel Brandir. Both of these locations were also built atop Amon Obel and Christopher Tolkien literally described in a note that Obel Halad replaced Ephel Brandir as the main settlement of the Haladin and that "The Wanderings Of Hurin" was in its final form. However, if we ignore this and consider Ephel Brandir as Tolkien’s final conception, where do we draw the line at when considering Christopher Tolkien’s statements? I think that because he stated in the note that the Brethil part of "The Wanderings Of Hurin" was in its final form, we should consider the name Obel Halad over Ephel Brandir. There are a few more reasons why, but I do not want to make this proposal too long.

I believe that Ephel Brandir should be merged onto Obel Halad since the text that Obel Halad appears in is much more detailed than the texts that Ephel Brandir appears in.

https://tolkiengateway.net/wiki/Ephel_Brandir https://tolkiengateway.net/wiki/Obel_Halad

Dour1234 (talk) 23:27, 8 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]