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==Cleanup== | |||
{{seealso|Forum:Eol & Magic pages}} | |||
I expanded each section, removed information that I could not support with evidence, and extensively referenced each section. This is not a 'defined' topic; it's ambiguous. I hope it's okay now. I have some concerns about redundancy between the sections, but maybe it's okay? [[User:Elf-esteem|Elf-esteem]] 19:48, 29 November 2015 (UTC) | |||
:I am happy with the expansions, but I have left the sources and cleanup tags on the article. | |||
:'''Sources''' - this is a particularly sketchy and difficult area of Tolkien scholarship so I personally think we need to set a higher bar for references as every statement needs to be watertight. So, for instance, "While Aragorn's healing ability may have been regarded as magical, or a blend of magic with medicine, Aragorn is not a pure 'Man' but a distant descendant of Lúthien's line." - who regards this as magical, or a blend of magic with medicine? Who says that his descent from Lúthien is a determining factor in his medical skill? Any statement that can not be specifically references should be removed. Also, there are reference to ''[[The History of Middle-earth]]'' that need page references. | |||
:'''Cleanup''' - there are still some parts of this that read like a personal essay ("Tolkien's views") in particular. I have made a start at tightening up the structure but I agree that it isn't coherent. I think we can be braver in removing pre-existing content. --{{User:Mith/sig}} 13:42, 13 December 2015 (UTC) | |||
Revision as of 13:42, 13 December 2015
Cleanup
- See also: Forum:Eol & Magic pages
I expanded each section, removed information that I could not support with evidence, and extensively referenced each section. This is not a 'defined' topic; it's ambiguous. I hope it's okay now. I have some concerns about redundancy between the sections, but maybe it's okay? Elf-esteem 19:48, 29 November 2015 (UTC)
- I am happy with the expansions, but I have left the sources and cleanup tags on the article.
- Sources - this is a particularly sketchy and difficult area of Tolkien scholarship so I personally think we need to set a higher bar for references as every statement needs to be watertight. So, for instance, "While Aragorn's healing ability may have been regarded as magical, or a blend of magic with medicine, Aragorn is not a pure 'Man' but a distant descendant of Lúthien's line." - who regards this as magical, or a blend of magic with medicine? Who says that his descent from Lúthien is a determining factor in his medical skill? Any statement that can not be specifically references should be removed. Also, there are reference to The History of Middle-earth that need page references.
- Cleanup - there are still some parts of this that read like a personal essay ("Tolkien's views") in particular. I have made a start at tightening up the structure but I agree that it isn't coherent. I think we can be braver in removing pre-existing content. --Mith (Talk/Contribs/Edits) 13:42, 13 December 2015 (UTC)
