https://tolkiengateway.net/w/index.php?title=Talk:Morgul-knife&feed=atom&action=historyTalk:Morgul-knife - Revision history2024-03-28T18:58:50ZRevision history for this page on the wikiMediaWiki 1.39.3https://tolkiengateway.net/w/index.php?title=Talk:Morgul-knife&diff=315770&oldid=prevMith: /* Citations */2020-06-20T16:16:13Z<p><span dir="auto"><span class="autocomment">Citations</span></span></p>
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</table>Mithhttps://tolkiengateway.net/w/index.php?title=Talk:Morgul-knife&diff=313711&oldid=prevHoldwine Meriadoc at 19:44, 3 June 20202020-06-03T19:44:16Z<p></p>
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</table>Holdwine Meriadochttps://tolkiengateway.net/w/index.php?title=Talk:Morgul-knife&diff=287003&oldid=prevAragornElessar: /* Question */2016-04-13T15:08:45Z<p><span dir="auto"><span class="autocomment">Question</span></span></p>
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</table>AragornElessarhttps://tolkiengateway.net/w/index.php?title=Talk:Morgul-knife&diff=287002&oldid=prevAragornElessar: /* Question */2016-04-13T15:08:20Z<p><span dir="auto"><span class="autocomment">Question</span></span></p>
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</table>AragornElessarhttps://tolkiengateway.net/w/index.php?title=Talk:Morgul-knife&diff=286964&oldid=prevMorgan: /* Question */2016-04-13T08:07:12Z<p><span dir="auto"><span class="autocomment">Question</span></span></p>
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</table>Morganhttps://tolkiengateway.net/w/index.php?title=Talk:Morgul-knife&diff=286960&oldid=prevMorgan: moved Talk:Morgul blades to Talk:Morgul-knife2016-04-13T07:59:41Z<p>moved <a href="/wiki/Talk:Morgul_blades" class="mw-redirect" title="Talk:Morgul blades">Talk:Morgul blades</a> to <a href="/wiki/Talk:Morgul-knife" title="Talk:Morgul-knife">Talk:Morgul-knife</a></p>
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<tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:Thus I would like to call the weapon primarily "Morgul-knife" and perhaps even forget completely the name "Morgul blade". What it comes to Boromir, I suppose that '''Morgul-wound''' could be treated separately from the Morgul-knife as we don't know was it received <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">froma </del>an arrow, a sword, a knife or what. But we know the consequences of the wound: they are quite different from that inflicted at the Weathertop, resembling more those seen during the Siege of Minas Tirith. --Tik 07:33, 13 April 2016 (UTC)</div></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:Thus I would like to call the weapon primarily "Morgul-knife" and perhaps even forget completely the name "Morgul blade". What it comes to Boromir, I suppose that '''Morgul-wound''' could be treated separately from the Morgul-knife as we don't know was it received <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">from </ins>an arrow, a sword, a knife or what. But we know the consequences of the wound: they are quite different from that inflicted at the Weathertop, resembling more those seen during the Siege of Minas Tirith. --Tik 07:33, 13 April 2016 (UTC)</div></td></tr>
</table>Tikhttps://tolkiengateway.net/w/index.php?title=Talk:Morgul-knife&diff=286955&oldid=prevTik: /* Question */2016-04-13T07:38:10Z<p><span dir="auto"><span class="autocomment">Question</span></span></p>
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</table>Tikhttps://tolkiengateway.net/w/index.php?title=Talk:Morgul-knife&diff=286954&oldid=prevTik at 07:33, 13 April 20162016-04-13T07:33:51Z<p></p>
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