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::Also, they are not just animals, they are sentient, and thus can be evil. [[User:Sage|Sage]] 13:06, 8 February 2015 (UTC)
::Also, they are not just animals, they are sentient, and thus can be evil. [[User:Sage|Sage]] 13:06, 8 February 2015 (UTC)
:::Then if they are evil, why do they devour anything they kill? If they were evil they wouldn't. If they did, they would just be animals. I understand Ungoliant being evil, in that she serves Morgoth, but the other spiders? What makes them evil? [[Special:Contributions/209.89.245.46|209.89.245.46]] 22:43, 16 February 2015 (UTC)
:::Then if they are evil, why do they devour anything they kill? If they were evil they wouldn't. If they did, they would just be animals. I understand Ungoliant being evil, in that she serves Morgoth, but the other spiders? What makes them evil? [[Special:Contributions/209.89.245.46|209.89.245.46]] 22:43, 16 February 2015 (UTC)
::::Canon makes them evil. No amount of reasoning trumps canon. --{{User:Ederchil/sig}} 22:49, 16 February 2015 (UTC)

Revision as of 22:49, 16 February 2015

Removed the EoA-rip "evidently as common in [[Middle-earth]] as they are today.". I believe this phrasing too light-heartedly succumbs to the conception that Middle-earth is the same as the "real" world, which is merely one interpretation of the complex relationship between the two worlds. --Morgan 22:56, 14 March 2011 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Agreed.-- KingAragorn  talk  contribs  edits  email  00:16, 15 March 2011 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Spiders as EVIL?!?!

What? How can spiders be evil? They aren't evil. They're just animals trying to survive. If they were evil, they'd serve Sauron, but they're not. 209.89.245.46 01:36, 8 February 2015 (UTC)Reply[reply]

They're not the spiders we know. They're Ungoliant's spawn. Ungoliant was more than just a spider, they are more than just spiders. (They're HUGE!)
Also, very fundamental flaw with your reasoning: not all evil serves Sauron. It can (and does) exist without him. --Ederchil (Talk/Contribs/Edits) 02:05, 8 February 2015 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Also, they are not just animals, they are sentient, and thus can be evil. Sage 13:06, 8 February 2015 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Then if they are evil, why do they devour anything they kill? If they were evil they wouldn't. If they did, they would just be animals. I understand Ungoliant being evil, in that she serves Morgoth, but the other spiders? What makes them evil? 209.89.245.46 22:43, 16 February 2015 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Canon makes them evil. No amount of reasoning trumps canon. --Ederchil (Talk/Contribs/Edits) 22:49, 16 February 2015 (UTC)Reply[reply]