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{{disambig-two|Thráin I, the first King under the Mountain|father of [[Thorin|Thorin II Oakenshield]]|[[Thráin|Thráin II]]}}
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{{disambig-two|Thráin I, the first King under the Mountain|father of [[Thorin|Thorin II Oakenshield]]|* '''[[Thráin|Thráin II]]}}
 
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==Other versions of the legendarium==
 
==Other versions of the legendarium==
It is not clear whether Thráin I existed in Tolkien's mind while he was writing ''[[The Hobbit]]'' or whether he was invented later, when writing the back-story of ''[[Lord of the Rings]]''. The phrase on [[Thrór's Map]] "''Here of old was Thrain - [[King under the Mountain]]''"<ref>{{H|Thror}}</ref> causes some fans to claim that Tolkien wrote it for Thráin I, since [[Thráin|Thráin II]] was never a King under the Mountain.
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It is not clear whether Thráin I existed in Tolkien's mind while he was writing ''[[The Hobbit]]'' or whether he was invented later, when writing the back-story of ''[[Lord of the Rings]]''. The phrase on [[Thrór's Map]] "''Here of old was Thrain - [[King under the Mountain]]''"<ref>{{H|Thror}}</ref> causes some fans to claim that Tolkien wrote it for Thráin I, since * '''[[Thráin|Thráin II]] was never a King under the Mountain.
  
 
[[Christopher Tolkien]], [[John Rateliff]] and [[Douglas Anderson]] say that Tolkien accidentally reversed the family tree Thrór --> Thráin --> Thorin to Thráin --> Thrór --> Thorin and then reverted it before final publication of the book.  Rateliff argues in his book that the original tree was favored but that it is impossible to say which was intended to be the correct genealogy.  According to Rateliff, the first edition uses the name "Thráin" in two distinct contexts that support either point of view and that Tolkien only added a third element to the story (the forenote) in 1947 when he sent suggested changes to the publisher.
 
[[Christopher Tolkien]], [[John Rateliff]] and [[Douglas Anderson]] say that Tolkien accidentally reversed the family tree Thrór --> Thráin --> Thorin to Thráin --> Thrór --> Thorin and then reverted it before final publication of the book.  Rateliff argues in his book that the original tree was favored but that it is impossible to say which was intended to be the correct genealogy.  According to Rateliff, the first edition uses the name "Thráin" in two distinct contexts that support either point of view and that Tolkien only added a third element to the story (the forenote) in 1947 when he sent suggested changes to the publisher.

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