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We are having an argument, no one is trolling. Plus, you say it's an offence punishable by banning, yet niether [[Tolkien_Gateway:Manual_of_Style|here]] nor [[Tolkien_Gateway:Policy|here]] is "trolling" mentioned. {{unsigned|Breragor}}
We are having an argument, no one is trolling. Plus, you say it's an offence punishable by banning, yet niether [[Tolkien_Gateway:Manual_of_Style|here]] nor [[Tolkien_Gateway:Policy|here]] is "trolling" mentioned. {{unsigned|Breragor}}
:I'd take you seriously if you would only end you posts with your signature: '''<nowiki>--~~~~</nowiki>'''. Thank you for pointing out that trolling is not mentioned in our 5 year old ''Policy'' page, Mith is planning to update it, I'm sure he will mention trolling when he does. The Manual of Style has nothing to do with talk page discussions. Furthermore trolling is not accepted across the web (in the same way that spam is not accepted), why would we tolerate it here just because it is not mentioned on an old unspecific policy page? --{{User:KingAragorn/sig}} 14:07, 29 January 2011 (UTC)

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So I justw ant to udnerstand, since you deleted our conversation instead of answering my question, why we don't use the "Nominations page" for nominations and why the "History" page is used instead? Unsigned comment by Breragor (talk • contribs).

The conversation was moved to here. Also in future please end talk page posts with "--~~~~", this will add a timestamp to your comments. Thanks! -- KingAragorn  talk  contribs  edits  email  03:16, 22 January 2011 (UTC)Reply[reply]
As KingAragorn points out - and if you had checked either the article's history or Recent Changes you would see this - I moved our discussion to the talk page as it shouldn't have been cluttering up the archive of featured quotes.
I have already answered your question:
"It [the quote] was on the Nominations page and was moved to the History page when it became the current quote on the homepage. See this edit and this one. --Mith (Talk/Contribs/Edits) 11:27, 19 January 2011 (UTC)"Reply[reply]
You then preceded to completely ignore what I said and tell me that my response was irrelevant. And now, I shall answer your question again: we did not use the "History" page for nominations - the quote was on the "Nominations" page but was moved to the "History" page when nominations were no longer required as it became the current Featured Quote on the homepage; I had directed you to the two edits which showed this. It is difficult to have a conversation if one of the participants does not read what the other has written. --Mith (Talk/Contribs/Edits) 12:31, 22 January 2011 (UTC)Reply[reply]


Obviosuly the quote was moved to "History" after it was on the "Nominations" page - I understand that. But whay wasn't the other quote on the "Nominations" page used first? That's what I don't udnerstand. Anyways, I'm done. Thanks.Unsigned comment by Breragor (talk • contribs).

NO. Do not make out that I am not answering your questions: I have answered every question you have asked when you have asked it. You asked me: "So I justw ant to udnerstand why we don't use the "Nominations page" for nominations and why the "History" page is used instead?" I answered that and now you claim that you understood this all along and that I was not answering the question.
I have answered your question twice. Not once, but TWICE. Here is my first answer:
"There are only three other in the nominations queue: the first has two disagrees and an undecided; the second has one agree; and the third has two agrees and an undecided. This had the joint-most agrees whilst being unanimously positive (only one other was unanimously positive but had fewer votes). Although the rules state that we need five votes in favour, so few people were voting that we decided in the meeting to update the quote in order to keep the homepage fresh (the previous quote had been there for 14 months, with no prospect of it being changed). --Mith (Talk/Contribs/Edits) 17:40, 12 January 2011 (UTC)"Reply[reply]
Here is my second answer:
"I've already answered this question, but I shall again for clarity: the selected quote was a) older, b) received universal agreement and c) was decided by a meeting of seven people. If you didn't like the quote that was chosen you should've voted against it, or else made an effort to attend the meeting: it has been no secret that I have put the need to update Featured Articles and Featured Nominations on the agenda of subsequent meetings. --Mith (Talk/Contribs/Edits) 17:41, 21 January 2011 (UTC)"Reply[reply]
You either am not reading this or you are trying to wind me up; I'm assuming the latter as I'm sure no individual can be this dense. --Mith (Talk/Contribs/Edits) 19:17, 22 January 2011 (UTC)Reply[reply]


You know what they say about assuming...Unsigned comment by breragor (talk • contribs).

No, I don't. Why don't you elaborate on your pointless comment on my talk page? Also, do you accept that I have answered your question? --Mith (Talk/Contribs/Edits) 12:01, 25 January 2011 (UTC)Reply[reply]
One would assume that you actually read the replies people give to your questions? I am right Breragor? -- KingAragorn  talk  contribs  edits  email  12:44, 25 January 2011 (UTC)Reply[reply]
"I am right Breragor?" That is not a question. Do you mean "I am right, Breragor" or "am I right, Breragor?"Unsigned comment by Breragor (talk • contribs).
Alas, if only you were so observant to read the answers people give you. -- KingAragorn  talk  contribs  edits  email  10:44, 26 January 2011 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Again, an assumption. You're assuming I did not read them in the first place. Unsigned comment by Breragor (talk • contribs).
In that case we can only assume that you are either failing to understand the sentences we are using in our responses or you are purposefully trolling. I should point out that continued trolling is a bannable offence. -- KingAragorn  talk  contribs  edits  email  11:58, 27 January 2011 (UTC)Reply[reply]
So getting angry at someone who potentially doesn't understand the responses is okay here? Unsigned comment by Breragor (talk • contribs).
There's no anger here. But I should tell you that you are displaying clear signs of trolling, I've seen it a lot elsewhere on the web. -- KingAragorn  talk  contribs  edits  email  10:52, 28 January 2011 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Not once did you say you didn't understand. In fact, quite the reverse: you said you did understand but tried to tell me that I was answering the wrong question. E.g. "Yes, but isn't the Tolkien Gateway:Featured quotes/Nominations page where we should be getting the quotes from? That is what I'm referring to." then "Okay, but that's regardless." and finally, "Obviosuly the quote was moved to "History" after it was on the "Nominations" page - I understand that." --Mith (Talk/Contribs/Edits) 15:54, 28 January 2011 (UTC)Reply[reply]

We are having an argument, no one is trolling. Plus, you say it's an offence punishable by banning, yet niether here nor here is "trolling" mentioned. Unsigned comment by Breragor (talk • contribs).

I'd take you seriously if you would only end you posts with your signature: --~~~~. Thank you for pointing out that trolling is not mentioned in our 5 year old Policy page, Mith is planning to update it, I'm sure he will mention trolling when he does. The Manual of Style has nothing to do with talk page discussions. Furthermore trolling is not accepted across the web (in the same way that spam is not accepted), why would we tolerate it here just because it is not mentioned on an old unspecific policy page? -- KingAragorn  talk  contribs  edits  email  14:07, 29 January 2011 (UTC)Reply[reply]