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I don't about the rest of the editors on this site, but to me the character(s) of Lowdham seem important to both Tolkien and me.

And I ask nicely of someone with greater knowledge of this particular matter (since I have not read "Sauron Defeated") to create an article for such an important narrative figure(s). Woolly Mammoth 19:26, 28 May 2015 (UTC)

Your user page says that you have an encyclopaedic knowledge of Tolkien? --Mith (Talk/Contribs/Edits) 13:26, 29 May 2015 (UTC)
I have only now started reading "Sauron Defeated", and everything else about Tolkien I have read, so of if you are going to use one book, and one book only, that I haven't read, to question my "Tolkien-lore" please consider your standards of "encyclopaedic" knowledge. Woolly Mammoth 02:32, 30 May 2015 (UTC)

Wow people... Do we seriously need to be fighting over how much knowledge a person has??? Woolly, what is "Sauron Defeated" about? (Not including the fact of Sauron being defeated) Arya

Oh, and we are, at the moment, a little at loss of people who have encyclopedic knowledge of the works of Tolkien (not including you, Woolly, but if you asked the question, you are hardly expected to answer it). We might have to wait for your question to be answered. Arya

Sauron Defeated is the 9th volume of The History of Middle-earth. The first part deals with the evolution of last chapters of The Return of the King and includes an interesting Epilogue chapter, which wasn't included in The Lord of the Rings.
The second and the third part are, however, the most interesting (in my opinion). The second part is called the Notion Club Papers, a group loosely based on the Inklings. They discuss various things which I'm not going into right now, but one of the members (Lowdham) is revealed to be a sort of "reincarnation" of at least a descendant of Elendil. There is also much information about the later development of the character of Ælfwine, a Saxon living in the 9th century England and a long way descendant of Eärendil.
The third part is called The Drowning of Anadûnê (that is Númenor). You can consider it an "Adûnaic" version of the Akallabêth. In it, there is also a lot of information on the Adûnaic language that is to be found nowhere else. Woolly Mammoth 07:30, 31 May 2015 (UTC)

Weren't the Inklings John's group? I believe Charles and Jack were in that group too, along with Owen. Saxon-or Anglo Saxon-was one of the languages that Tolkien studied in, and he also reused as runes in his books, and you can see on the 50th anniversary copy. //Translation: being the record of a/years journey of Bilbo Baggins com/pany from his memoirs/the hobbit or there and back again// I have not yet started the silmarillion, so I clearly haven't gotten to Sauron defeated, but I'll see what I can get. Arya

Okay, apparently Lowdham has lucid dreams about Numenor, and using these dreams, he finds out much about the languages (Quenya, Sindarin,...) and Numenor story, and discusses it with his group, as you said, and Tolkien has not finished the story, but it is clear that Lowdham is some sort of replica of Elendil... Is this some sort of biography or autobiography??? Arya