Talk:Grog

What has grog to do with anything?

The portrayal in adaptations section doesn't convince that the word "grog" is referenced or mentioned in the media. What has the "medicine" of TT has to do with grog? Is it called so in dialogue? Sage 16:39, 8 August 2016 (UTC)

Yes it is. EldritchNexus 06:36, 1 September 2016 (UTC)

Did you find this reference by ear or by watching with subtitles? Characters like Orcs always speak with muffled voices or over special effects so our ears might hear what we want to hear. I suggest we always consult the subtitles for this job. The word "grog" is nowhere to be found in the EE subtitles. Sage 09:58, 1 September 2016 (UTC)

Delete

After some thought I decided that this article shouldn't be included here. After realizing that the scene in TT didn't mention "grog" at all, and reading that the word is used almost generically to refer to any alcoholic mixture, it seems that its appearance in H is also used generically; apparently the Trolls were just making an improvisional mixture of drink rather than a specific recipe of what can be termed "the Grog". The word is thus a dictionary term rather than encyclopedic to warrant an inclusion here.

The only definite appearance of "the Grog" seems to be Shadows of Mordor, which I haven't seen myself, but does this single non-canonical appearance justifies the article? Sage 05:46, 21 August 2016 (UTC)

Perhaps parts of the information on this page could go to a broader page about alcoholic beverages in M-e? I'm with you on the deletion of this page.--Morgan 10:15, 21 August 2016 (UTC)

The name is used in the Extended Edition's version of the scene. You can hear an Orc saying "What's the matter? He can't hold his grog" after Merry spits it out. Also, are you actually going to make a page about alcoholic beverages? EldritchNexus 06:41, 1 September 2016 (UTC)

In the movie the Orc said "he kaht mhgrhihf his rhawrgh". According to the subtitles I consulted, the Orc said "he can't take his draughts". Sage 09:58, 1 September 2016 (UTC)