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Tolkien Gateway:Meetings/2 January 2011/Transcript

[2011-01-02 20:13:51] <KingAragorn> Welcome to Tolkien Gateway's sixteenth meeting. KingAragorn, Hyarion, Mith, Amroth, Ederchil and Eldarion are present.
[2011-01-02 20:14:11] <KingAragorn> Ederchil has the floor
[2011-01-02 20:14:30] <Ederchil> Ah, yes. The screenplays
[2011-01-02 20:14:46] <Ederchil> They've been around for years, and in the past few years,
[2011-01-02 20:14:51] <Ederchil> barely anyone touched them
[2011-01-02 20:15:01] <Ederchil> what place does fan fiction have on our site?
[2011-01-02 20:15:20] <Amroth> could the Quenta Silmarillion screenplay become a subpage of mine page?
[2011-01-02 20:15:35] <Amroth> since I'm the only contributer of them,
[2011-01-02 20:15:50] <Ederchil> no problem. you can make subpages for whatever you want
[2011-01-02 20:15:59] <KingAragorn> I think that users can have whatever they want under their username area, but fanficiton should be kept off the main site
[2011-01-02 20:16:32] <Mith> +1
[2011-01-02 20:16:41] <Amroth> okay, moved it
[2011-01-02 20:16:44] <Eldarion> +1
[2011-01-02 20:16:51] <Ederchil> +1
[2011-01-02 20:17:26] <Eldarion> are the peter jackson screenplays fan fiction? they look quite like the film's screenplays
[2011-01-02 20:17:26] <Mith> Does this mean when can purge the others?
[2011-01-02 20:17:40] <Ederchil> fine by me, Mith
[2011-01-02 20:18:04] <Ederchil> As for the PJ screenplays, I have no idea. I believe the TTT one said something about "compiled by so and so"
[2011-01-02 20:18:25] <Mith> I think they are the film's screenplays, but I have no idea from where they came.
[2011-01-02 20:19:14] <Amroth> Well, the orginal screenplays have been selled a few years ago.
[2011-01-02 20:19:22] <Mith> Yeah, TTT has a list of people who transcribed it. People I haven't heard of.
[2011-01-02 20:19:36] <Eldarion> http://www.imsdb.com/scripts/Lord-of-the-Rings-Fellowship-of-the-Ring,-The.html
[2011-01-02 20:20:32] <Mith> Fine
[2011-01-02 20:20:36] <Mith> We can delete them
[2011-01-02 20:20:46] <Mith> They exist somewhere else so it's not liek they're lost
[2011-01-02 20:20:57] <Ederchil> agreed.
[2011-01-02 20:20:59] <Amroth> I think, we should keep them
[2011-01-02 20:20:59] <Mith> We've just stolen them
[2011-01-02 20:21:14] <Mith> Are they really ours to keep?
[2011-01-02 20:22:00] <Eldarion> hyarion has created the pages. maybe he has something to add?!
[2011-01-02 20:22:52] <Amroth> true, if he's still here
[2011-01-02 20:24:31] <Eldarion> hm, i think it would be good to have these three screenplays but if they're just copied from another page..i'm in favor of deleting
[2011-01-02 20:24:45] <Mith> Not only that
[2011-01-02 20:24:50] <Mith> But they're not in the same format
[2011-01-02 20:24:59] <KingAragorn> I see little value in them tbh
[2011-01-02 20:25:16] <Mith> The layout of each one is different; they can't be edited as they are too large.
[2011-01-02 20:25:35] <Eldarion> yes, you're both right
[2011-01-02 20:25:45] <Amroth> they should be splited in subpages, so they can be edited
[2011-01-02 20:25:45] -->| Morgan (Morgan@TG-C055BE8.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) has joined #Wiki
[2011-01-02 20:25:52] <Morgan> Hi all
[2011-01-02 20:26:01] <Amroth> hi all
[2011-01-02 20:26:02] <Morgan> Sorry for being late
[2011-01-02 20:26:05] <Eldarion> hey
[2011-01-02 20:26:12] <Mith> Good evening Morgan le Fay
[2011-01-02 20:26:35] <Mith> We're just discussing what to do about the TLOTR film screenplay pages
[2011-01-02 20:26:46] <Morgan> Ok
[2011-01-02 20:26:53] <Mith> Ederchil, KA, Eldarion and I are in favour of removing them
[2011-01-02 20:27:11] <Mith> Amroth prefers to keep them and split them up.
[2011-01-02 20:27:14] <Eldarion> splitting up in subpages is lots of work. i don't think they worth it
[2011-01-02 20:27:19] <Eldarion> #are
[2011-01-02 20:27:51] <Amroth> When we keep them, i would like to do that job.
[2011-01-02 20:27:52] <Morgan> Perhaps moving them to some User page? Amroth?
[2011-01-02 20:28:02] <Morgan> 's
[2011-01-02 20:28:23] <Amroth> I'm okay with that idea
[2011-01-02 20:29:16] <Eldarion> yeah, so they are deleted in the main wiki and you can do what you want in your namespace
[2011-01-02 20:30:18] <Amroth> yes
[2011-01-02 20:30:53] <Morgan> What's Ederchil's, KA's, Mith's and Hyarion's opinion on this solution?
[2011-01-02 20:31:12] <Ederchil> if anyone wants it in his/her userspace
[2011-01-02 20:31:19] <Ederchil> move it. otherwise, delete
[2011-01-02 20:31:32] <Mith> It's up to individual users what they put in their userspace
[2011-01-02 20:31:49] <KingAragorn> if you want to keep it, keep it in your user area
[2011-01-02 20:31:53] <Amroth> okay, shall we then make it a subpage of my userpage?
[2011-01-02 20:32:00] <Ederchil> go aheaed
[2011-01-02 20:32:01] <Mith> But I think the consensus on getting it out of the mainspace is clear
[2011-01-02 20:32:02] <Morgan> Sure
[2011-01-02 20:32:14] <Morgan> yep
[2011-01-02 20:32:20] <Amroth> then I'll move them
[2011-01-02 20:33:36] <Morgan> (anyone else noticed that TG's been a bit slow the last days? Or is just my wife downloading too much on piratebay >:-(
[2011-01-02 20:33:47] <Mith> I've noticed the same thing.
[2011-01-02 20:33:54] <Mith> It's not been down, but jsut slow to load.
[2011-01-02 20:33:58] <Morgan> exactly
[2011-01-02 20:34:01] <Amroth> didn't notice it
[2011-01-02 20:34:07] <Ederchil> didn't notice, didn't edit much
[2011-01-02 20:34:10] <Amroth> except the screenplays, then
[2011-01-02 20:34:21] <Amroth> but that probally because they're to big
[2011-01-02 20:34:21] <Eldarion> thought it was my connection..
[2011-01-02 20:34:48] <Morgan> and it doesn't happen always
[2011-01-02 20:34:52] <Morgan> just every now and then
[2011-01-02 20:35:18] <Mith> Unfortunately, Hyarion isn't here to ask. Shall we mvoe on with the meeting?
[2011-01-02 20:35:26] <Ederchil> yes
[2011-01-02 20:35:26] <Eldarion> yes
[2011-01-02 20:35:29] <Morgan> +1
[2011-01-02 20:35:44] <Amroth> yes
[2011-01-02 20:36:22] <Mith> What's next? Collectibles Portal?
[2011-01-02 20:36:25] <KingAragorn> yes
[2011-01-02 20:36:28] <Ederchil> Yes.
[2011-01-02 20:36:38] <Amroth> I need to go, about the Collectibles Portal
[2011-01-02 20:36:47] <Amroth> I think we should replace it with Fandom
[2011-01-02 20:36:51] <KingAragorn> my view is that it should be deleted, without a replacement
[2011-01-02 20:37:03] <Ederchil> well, definitely delete
[2011-01-02 20:37:08] <Ederchil> but my thought was that,
[2011-01-02 20:37:13] <Ederchil> should it be replaced,
[2011-01-02 20:37:27] <Ederchil> we'd get a fandom/tolkien society portal
[2011-01-02 20:37:41] <Mith> As we are on the subject on portals
[2011-01-02 20:37:42] <Amroth> Goodbye
[2011-01-02 20:37:45] <Morgan> bye, bye
[2011-01-02 20:37:47] <Ederchil> bye
[2011-01-02 20:37:48] <Mith> I want to through something into the mix
[2011-01-02 20:37:50] <Eldarion> bye
[2011-01-02 20:37:50] <Mith> Bye!
[2011-01-02 20:37:52] |<-- Amroth has left irc.tolkiengateway.net (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client)
[2011-01-02 20:38:02] <Mith> The "Languages" Portal isn't a portal at all
[2011-01-02 20:38:10] <Mith> It's just an article on Langauges
[2011-01-02 20:38:12] <Mith> Can that go?
[2011-01-02 20:38:20] <Ederchil> no, it could do with a renovation
[2011-01-02 20:38:52] <Mith> I meant should it no longer be classed as a portal?
[2011-01-02 20:39:09] <Ederchil> I think it should
[2011-01-02 20:39:30] <Morgan> Concerning fandom/tolkien society - how about Fandom & Scholars (can't Tolkien Societies be said be included in the "fandom" - and it's sometimes hard to differentiate between scholars and fans)
[2011-01-02 20:39:33] <Mith> Hyarion's intention was clearly to introduce an Events Portal: http://tolkiengateway.net/wiki/Template:Portal-footer
[2011-01-02 20:40:07] <Ederchil> the only place where that exists is Wanted Pages
[2011-01-02 20:40:18] <Ederchil> but what kind of Events? M-e or real world?
[2011-01-02 20:41:10] <Mith> I don't knoe
[2011-01-02 20:41:22] <Morgan> Three sub-topics going on! Should we limit the discussion first?
[2011-01-02 20:41:38] <Mith> I think it's all in the mix of the decision, to be honest
[2011-01-02 20:41:44] <KingAragorn> what about the Timeline as the events portal?
[2011-01-02 20:41:56] <Ederchil> events by decade?
[2011-01-02 20:42:16] <Ederchil> a tiny calendar in the right top column?
[2011-01-02 20:42:19] <Ederchil> I can see that.
[2011-01-02 20:43:11] <Mith> Although we do have an "On this day..." on Main Page.
[2011-01-02 20:43:41] <Mith> My problem with fandom and Societies is whether we have enough meat to put on the bones.
[2011-01-02 20:43:53] <Ederchil> not much, tbf
[2011-01-02 20:43:55] <Morgan> Agree with Mith
[2011-01-02 20:44:19] <Morgan> Throwing in some ideas - "Creatures", "Characters and Peoples", "Characters and Creatures", "Peoples and Creatures"
[2011-01-02 20:44:31] <Morgan> (I'm not so fond of the name "Characters" - it's misleading)
[2011-01-02 20:44:42] <KingAragorn> a races portal would be good
[2011-01-02 20:45:11] <Morgan> yeah, "Races" is better
[2011-01-02 20:45:22] <Morgan> (than "Characters")
[2011-01-02 20:45:33] <Ederchil> agree w/Morgan
[2011-01-02 20:45:39] <Mith> I Morgan, KA means Races as a separate portal?
[2011-01-02 20:46:04] <Mith> Fashioned from this: http://tolkiengateway.net/wiki/Races
[2011-01-02 20:46:09] <Morgan> To replace Collectibles?
[2011-01-02 20:46:10] <Mith> Is that right?
[2011-01-02 20:46:33] <Mith> http://lotr.wikia.com/wiki/Portal:Races
[2011-01-02 20:46:47] <KingAragorn> yes something like that
[2011-01-02 20:47:05] <KingAragorn> but without the separation between good and evil
[2011-01-02 20:47:24] <Mith> A TGed version of the above, then?
[2011-01-02 20:47:47] <Ederchil> yes, with KA's layout
[2011-01-02 20:47:50] <Morgan> Could we include Animals in such a portal?
[2011-01-02 20:48:07] <Eldarion> with horses
[2011-01-02 20:48:32] <Ederchil> It also helps "Bees", "Flies" and other nonsensical EoA rips off Orphaned Pages
[2011-01-02 20:49:03] <KingAragorn> yes it would be great to include animals
[2011-01-02 20:49:41] <Morgan> (Ederchil - do you mean to create a large Animal article in which we can include "minor" animals?)
[2011-01-02 20:50:05] <Morgan> (didn't express myself well, but I think you get my point!)
[2011-01-02 20:50:15] <Ederchil> yes, or delete the smaller ones. Wasn't there a "grass" controversy years back?
[2011-01-02 20:50:37] <Mith> And the strawberries one
[2011-01-02 20:50:48] <Mith> I have been arguing over these for four years
[2011-01-02 20:51:03] <Eldarion> what was the argument about?
[2011-01-02 20:51:26] <Morgan> Haha! Personally I quite like those articles (once they are re-written from the EoA rips)
[2011-01-02 20:51:29] <Mith> Whether they should stay or go.
[2011-01-02 20:51:40] <Ederchil> the pointlessness of having an article about bees or strawberries, and not one about grass, air or water
[2011-01-02 20:51:45] <Mith> Because - in my opinion - they are ridiculously obvious
[2011-01-02 20:52:14] <Mith> Honestly, somewhere we have things like, "Willow is a type of tree."
[2011-01-02 20:52:15] <Eldarion> ah, i see
[2011-01-02 20:52:18] <Mith> That's it! That's the article!
[2011-01-02 20:52:47] <Ederchil> and many of those are orphaned and unchanged since at least 07
[2011-01-02 20:52:57] <Mith> "The Oak was one of the most common trees in Middle-earth, found throughout the numerous forests. "
[2011-01-02 20:53:12] <Ederchil> *headdesk*
[2011-01-02 20:53:25] <Morgan> ("orphaned" - do you mean copied?)
[2011-01-02 20:53:35] <Ederchil> nope, it means nothing links to it
[2011-01-02 20:53:42] <Morgan> I see
[2011-01-02 20:54:22] <Mith> "Wild Berries grew in the upper Vales of Anduin "
[2011-01-02 20:54:28] <Morgan> But isn't it hard to decide what's important and what's not?
[2011-01-02 20:54:57] <Mith> Are we pro-Races Portal?
[2011-01-02 20:55:04] <Mith> I say "Yes"
[2011-01-02 20:55:05] <Ederchil> yes
[2011-01-02 20:55:08] <Eldarion> yes
[2011-01-02 20:55:09] <KingAragorn> Aye
[2011-01-02 20:55:10] <Morgan> yep
[2011-01-02 20:55:28] <Mith> I think what to put on it is for a talk page, do you all agree?
[2011-01-02 20:55:48] <Morgan> sure
[2011-01-02 20:55:48] <KingAragorn> Aye
[2011-01-02 20:55:49] <Eldarion> yeah
[2011-01-02 20:55:54] <Ederchil> yes
[2011-01-02 20:55:55] <Mith> We could go back and forth all day about wild berries and bloody strawberries
[2011-01-02 20:56:10] <Mith> I think that's the end of the official agenda, but I would like to add something on, if I may
[2011-01-02 20:56:13] <Ederchil> and willows and gnats
[2011-01-02 20:56:18] <Morgan> These swearing Englishmen...! ;-)
[2011-01-02 20:56:21] <Ederchil> o no, I already deleted Gnats
[2011-01-02 20:56:59] <Mith> You can tell a lot about an Englishman by the way he swears, but that's for another day.
[2011-01-02 20:57:07] <Mith> Featured Article and Quote
[2011-01-02 20:57:10] <Mith> IT's a new year!
[2011-01-02 20:57:18] <Ederchil> four to go for the quotes.
[2011-01-02 20:57:20] <Mith> (And Collaboration)
[2011-01-02 20:57:28] <Ederchil> I chipped in, but it's been mostly Eldarion
[2011-01-02 20:57:30] <Mith> Can we PLEASE change these
[2011-01-02 20:57:43] <Ederchil> okay. into what?
[2011-01-02 20:58:27] <Eldarion> maybe this:
[2011-01-02 20:58:28] <Eldarion> "Gondor! Gondor, between the Mountains and the Sea! West Wind blew there; the light upon the Silver Tree Fell like bright rain in gardens of the Kings of old. O proud walls! White towers! O winged crown and throne of gold! O Gondor, Gondor! Shall Men behold the Silver Tree, Or West Wind blow again between the Mountains and the Sea?"
[2011-01-02 20:59:00] <Mith> What about my Morgoth-Fingolfin one?
[2011-01-02 20:59:04] <Ederchil> well, with the quotes project doing fine, I think Article and Collab should go first
[2011-01-02 20:59:42] <Eldarion> mith, that would be great as well
[2011-01-02 20:59:55] <Mith> I just say my Fingolfin because it's the oldest official nomination on the old system no one's actually objected to
[2011-01-02 21:00:09] <Ederchil> okay
[2011-01-02 21:00:12] <Eldarion> yeah okay
[2011-01-02 21:00:47] <Eldarion> and i think the new system of nomination will still take some time and it's good to have a fresh one for the mean time
[2011-01-02 21:01:17] <Mith> Any nominations for FQ?
[2011-01-02 21:01:35] <Mith> We discussed this last time and we weren't happy with the pending Gandalf or Gondor
[2011-01-02 21:01:45] <Eldarion> you mean FA?
[2011-01-02 21:02:29] <Mith> Sorry, yes
[2011-01-02 21:02:38] <Eldarion> in the last meeting you came up with some articles
[2011-01-02 21:03:41] <Morgan> Eriador
[2011-01-02 21:03:46] <Eldarion> Rose Cotton, Denethor, Eärnur
[2011-01-02 21:04:00] <Eldarion> Minas Tirith, aranarth, arvedui
[2011-01-02 21:04:08] <Eldarion> were some of your suggestions
[2011-01-02 21:07:57] <Mith> Christ
[2011-01-02 21:08:07] <Ederchil> no, that wasn't
[2011-01-02 21:08:07] <Eldarion> but do we want to choose a FA without an election process?
[2011-01-02 21:08:17] <Ederchil> nominate them all, then?
[2011-01-02 21:08:25] <Eldarion> yes
[2011-01-02 21:08:32] <Mith> Rose Cotton is probably the best of those, but has an annoying number of red links
[2011-01-02 21:08:38] <Mith> Alright but we MUST votr
[2011-01-02 21:08:49] <Mith> The problem at the moment is no one participates!
[2011-01-02 21:09:11] <Eldarion> yes thats right
[2011-01-02 21:09:12] <Mith> I really want to change it this week
[2011-01-02 21:09:46] <Eldarion> how about putting a notice on the Main Page?
[2011-01-02 21:09:54] <Morgan> How do we vote?
[2011-01-02 21:10:00] <Ederchil> is sitenotice available?
[2011-01-02 21:10:11] <KingAragorn> sitenotice doesn't work on Ithilien
[2011-01-02 21:10:19] <Ederchil> crud
[2011-01-02 21:10:20] <Eldarion> morgan, by adding "agree" on the nominations page
[2011-01-02 21:10:20] <KingAragorn> and Cavendish (I think)
[2011-01-02 21:10:30] <Mith> It doesn't work on Cavendish
[2011-01-02 21:10:53] <Mith> Can I propose Elendil for the Collaboration? A shamefully short article I think
[2011-01-02 21:10:55] <KingAragorn> yeah, whenever I switch to monobook I see a very outdated notice
[2011-01-02 21:10:58] <Eldarion> or" disagree" of course
[2011-01-02 21:11:27] <Mith> http://tolkiengateway.net/wiki/Tolkien_Gateway:Featured_article_nominations
[2011-01-02 21:12:16] <Mith> Or Théodred
[2011-01-02 21:12:30] <Morgan> That was a bit tough to find! Can we make a redirect? Featured article - >
[2011-01-02 21:12:41] <Ederchil> TG: FAN?
[2011-01-02 21:12:53] <Ederchil> brb, couple minutes
[2011-01-02 21:13:45] <Mith> Redirects is something I'm going to be doing this week
[2011-01-02 21:14:31] <Eldarion> about the collaborations: theodred looks even weaker than elendil. so i'm for theodred
[2011-01-02 21:15:38] <Eldarion> about FA: maybe we can replace the gatekeeper with a notice about the ongoing FQ and FA nominations
[2011-01-02 21:16:35] <Ederchil> Eldarion, agree
[2011-01-02 21:16:40] <Mith> That's not a bad idea
[2011-01-02 21:17:13] <Eldarion> so we choose Theodred as Collab?
[2011-01-02 21:17:34] <KingAragorn> edit conflict
[2011-01-02 21:17:41] <KingAragorn> Morgan nominates the same article as me :P
[2011-01-02 21:17:49] <Morgan> Haha!
[2011-01-02 21:17:52] <Ederchil> Theodred
[2011-01-02 21:18:22] <Eldarion> and mith?
[2011-01-02 21:18:45] <Morgan> I would personally say another article than Theodred - one that is more concerned with The Hobbit films (don't matter much to me, though)
[2011-01-02 21:19:27] <Eldarion> why?
[2011-01-02 21:19:49] <Mith> I looked for Hobbity articles but couldn't find one which was a disater
[2011-01-02 21:20:01] <Morgan> Well, to get attention from the newbies getting interested in the films
[2011-01-02 21:20:14] <Mith> What about Beorn, then?
[2011-01-02 21:20:15] <Eldarion> i see
[2011-01-02 21:20:23] <Ederchil> Beorn needs the love
[2011-01-02 21:21:24] <Eldarion> agree
[2011-01-02 21:21:26] <Morgan> Sure, I created a page for the Swedish actor (in PJs adapations) just recently
[2011-01-02 21:22:10] <Eldarion> do all agree on beorn as the next improvement drive article?
[2011-01-02 21:22:19] <Ederchil> yes
[2011-01-02 21:22:21] <Morgan> I agree on that
[2011-01-02 21:22:35] <Mith> Yep
[2011-01-02 21:22:51] <Morgan> What a merry agreement!
[2011-01-02 21:22:57] <Eldarion> great
[2011-01-02 21:23:04] <Eldarion> can we change it right away?
[2011-01-02 21:23:06] <Ederchil> not much disagreement tonight
[2011-01-02 21:23:07] <Ederchil> yes
[2011-01-02 21:23:21] <Eldarion> even greater
[2011-01-02 21:23:29] <Mith> Can we change the quote, too?
[2011-01-02 21:23:34] <Ederchil> yes
[2011-01-02 21:23:48] <Eldarion> to which?
[2011-01-02 21:23:52] <Morgan> TG needs a face-lift for the New Year!
[2011-01-02 21:23:56] <Ederchil> Mith's one
[2011-01-02 21:24:07] <Eldarion> ah, yes remembered
[2011-01-02 21:24:25] <Mith> I have been tihnking about rejigging the home page
[2011-01-02 21:24:41] <Eldarion> so we have a new quote, a new collab and new nominations for the FA
[2011-01-02 21:24:44] <Mith> Are we moving from the end of meeting to chitchat, or is this meeting chitchat?
[2011-01-02 21:24:55] <Ederchil> meeting chitchat
[2011-01-02 21:25:00] <Morgan> shitchat
[2011-01-02 21:25:12] <Eldarion> why does the gatekeeper still exist?
[2011-01-02 21:25:20] <Eldarion> didn't we agree to remove it?
[2011-01-02 21:25:31] <Morgan> yeah, I vaguely remember that too
[2011-01-02 21:26:04] <Mith> Shall I delete it RIGHT NOW?
[2011-01-02 21:26:11] <Eldarion> YES
[2011-01-02 21:26:37] <Morgan> DO IT!!! Aarg!!!
[2011-01-02 21:26:46] <Morgan> ;)
[2011-01-02 21:26:58] <Mith> I enjoy deleting
[2011-01-02 21:27:16] <Eldarion> again: �01 maybe we can replace the gatekeeper with a notice about the ongoing FQ and FA nominations���01
[2011-01-02 21:27:18] <Mith> It's like being Chancellor of the Exchequer cutting government spending
[2011-01-02 21:27:27] <Eldarion> ^^
[2011-01-02 21:27:57] <Mith> I thought that was a good idea
[2011-01-02 21:28:03] <Mith> I thought I said that at the time
[2011-01-02 21:28:06] <Eldarion> and the others?
[2011-01-02 21:28:11] <Eldarion> yes you did
[2011-01-02 21:29:01] <Morgan> (I'll start by editing the etymology section of Beorn - it's kind of a mess right now)
[2011-01-02 21:31:39] <Morgan> (On the Beorn page - I found the Category:Masculine names - never seen that before! Maybe because I haven't edited much characters articles. Should we divide all characters between females and males?)
[2011-01-02 21:32:40] <Ederchil> That was either Sage or Gilgamesh, if memory serves me, who did that.
[2011-01-02 21:34:14] <Morgan> What's your opinion - should all (character) articles be categorized such? Did you discuss(decide it first?
[2011-01-02 21:34:35] <Morgan> discuss/decide
[2011-01-02 21:34:42] <Ederchil> We could expand it. point for the next meeting?
[2011-01-02 21:35:12] <Eldarion> ederchil, what do you think about a notice on the Main Page, in order to draw more attention to the FA/FQ pages
[2011-01-02 21:35:13] <Morgan> Sure, it's a good point to bring up in a meeting, since it affects a huge amounts of articles
[2011-01-02 21:35:35] <Ederchil> Eldarion: yes, but where?
[2011-01-02 21:36:07] <Eldarion> instead of featured gatekeeper
[2011-01-02 21:36:16] <Ederchil> yes
[2011-01-02 21:36:22] <Mith> I've already done it...
[2011-01-02 21:36:27] <Eldarion> ah, sorry
[2011-01-02 21:36:36] <Mith> I thought we'd decided!
[2011-01-02 21:36:39] <Eldarion> i should have refreshed
[2011-01-02 21:36:46] <Eldarion> yes, cool
[2011-01-02 21:36:48] <Mith> I was too eager :p
[2011-01-02 21:37:02] <Morgan> (quickie: is "cognate" bot a verb and a noun? "x is cognate with y", "x is a cognate of y" - both correct? )
[2011-01-02 21:37:23] <Ederchil> I only know of the latter
[2011-01-02 21:37:25] <Mith> I don't think it's a verb
[2011-01-02 21:37:50] <Morgan> The Annotated Hobbit: ..."it is cognate with..."
[2011-01-02 21:38:05] <Morgan> never seen it before, though
[2011-01-02 21:38:20] <Eldarion> it's both an adkective and a noun
[2011-01-02 21:38:21] <Mith> http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/cognate
[2011-01-02 21:38:35] <Eldarion> #adjective
[2011-01-02 21:39:41] <Eldarion> do you agree that it would be good to move Gandalf and Gondor to the FA nomination queue until they have enough references
[2011-01-02 21:39:48] <Morgan> "...it is cognate to..." seems to be most correct according to wiktionary
[2011-01-02 21:40:06] <Eldarion> in order to free up space for new nominations like Eriador
[2011-01-02 21:44:52] <Morgan> Is the queue found on another page?
[2011-01-02 21:45:09] <Eldarion> http://tolkiengateway.net/wiki/Tolkien_Gateway:Featured_article_queue
[2011-01-02 21:45:33] <Eldarion> there are three pages: http://tolkiengateway.net/wiki/Tolkien_Gateway:Featured_articles
[2011-01-02 21:48:26] <Morgan> (Mith: Removed gap (showing up on the main page) - these gaps are created when only a section is edited of a date article, if I understand it correctly - it happens sort of automatically, unless you know it and can delete the gap before saving)
[2011-01-02 21:49:21] <Mith> Morgan: some of those articles have four or five spaces at the bottom, I'm not sure how they came about
[2011-01-02 21:49:39] <Mith> 1 line break is added when saving, but that is removed anyway when including in another article
[2011-01-02 21:49:57] <Mith> However, s basically create an extra line break
[2011-01-02 21:49:58] <Morgan> strange
[2011-01-02 21:50:14] <Mith> So I shunt it all up because it makes an annoying gap on the homepage
[2011-01-02 21:50:22] <Mith> I am pedantic like that
[2011-01-02 21:50:43] <Eldarion> i will go now. have a good day or a good night! :)
[2011-01-02 21:50:50] <Mith> Alrighty, goodnight!
[2011-01-02 21:50:53] <Ederchil> yeah, me too
[2011-01-02 21:50:56] <Ederchil> g'night
[2011-01-02 21:50:58] <KingAragorn> good night
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