User talk:SingingOrc

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Latest comment: 1 July 2023 by SingingOrc in topic Edits to the Galadriel and Celebrimbor pages

Welcome![edit source]

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-- Mith (Talk/Contribs/Edits) 02:09, 7 September 2021 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Use of minor edit checkbox[edit source]

Hi there. I noticed your recent edit on the Golf article, but I would just suggest to not mark these types of edits as "minor." The minor checkbox would be better suited for things like adding links to words, correcting typos, or fixing formatting mistakes. From Wikipedia: "A minor edit is one that the editor believes requires no review and could never be the subject of a dispute." In this particular case, I feel like it changes the meaning of the article enough for others to review it. --Oromë 01:34, 10 September 2021 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Thank you for the correction. I will remember that in the future. SingingOrc 03:00, 10 September 2021 (UTC)Reply[reply]

References in clear Text instead of templates for references[edit source]

I noticed that you checked the minor edit box again eben you added references in clear text. Please use the templates for references. Please do not write references as clear text. I recommend that you look at pages, such as Template:FR, Template:TT, Template:RK, Template:App, Template:UT, Template:S, Template:PM and other Template: pages to get familiar with templates for references. --Akhorahil 06:34, 31 October 2021 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Thank you for the notice. As for the minor checkbox, I assumed it was minor since I changed none of the content, but only added citations. As for templates, I am sorry if I caused any inconvenience, but since the results are exactly the same, I do not quite see why that matters.—SingingOrc 19:03, 2 November 2021 (UTC)Reply[reply]
All the other editors that I am aware of use templates for references, which ensure the uniformity of the phrasing of references. In addition assigning names to references and using those names creates footnotes for references, which are not the same, because several references with the same Name will refer to the Same footnote for the reference with the same number. --Akhorahil 20:17, 2 November 2021 (UTC)Reply[reply]

References to The Lord of the Rings[edit source]

I noticed that you included references to The Lord of the Rings without page numbers in your recent edits. Do you have a copy of the 50th anniversary edition of LOTR or of a later edition, whose page numbering is compatible and are you already familiar with the page numbers section on the Help:References page? --Akhôrahil (talk) 08:22, 29 June 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Yes, I'm sorry about that (although, in my defense, there is a remarkably large number of pages that do not do that). I will try to do better. SingingOrc (talk) 17:13, 29 June 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Edits to the Galadriel and Celebrimbor pages[edit source]

I noticed that you edited the Galadriel and Celembrimbor pages and the Galadriel talk (discussion) page. The user Quentandil spent a lot of time editing the Galadriel page and explaining the differences between different versions in the Other versions of the legendarium section of the Galadriel page. I suggest that you discuss edits on the Galadriel page and the Celebrimbor page with him (either on the talk pages or on the discord chat) before making edits to ensure that there is consistency between the version in the main sections and the information in the Other versions of the legendarium section on related pages on Tolkien Gateway. --Akhôrahil (talk) 08:22, 29 June 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Ah—I am sorry about that and will bear that in mind. Thank you for pointing it out. However, is there a reason why asking in the discussion page will not suffice? I thought the point of that was to talk about the specific pages. That's the reason I posted it to the Galadriel discussion page rather than simply editing it. I will try to be more careful in the future. Have I made an error? -- SingingOrc (talk) 17:12, 29 June 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
I have been unable to find the user "Quentandil", in the user revision history for Galadriel, so I do not know how to find this person. But again, I did post to the discussion page before doing anything major for a reason. -- SingingOrc (talk) 20:51, 1 July 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
You did great! I'm not sure Akhôrahil saw your initial talk page discussion. It's just a coincidence that User:LorenzoCB ("Quentandil" on Discord) finished rewriting the Galadriel page recently and I don't think he's had time to read your discussion topic just yet. We use <nowiki>{{claimed}}</nowiki> to indicate an article is currently being rewritten by someone, and since that was recently removed, there's nothing indicating someone should avoid making changes. There's also no set time someone needs to wait after posing a question on a talk page, so after a few days I would have also just jumped in and made the changes; better to have editors with the drive to get things done than have us all waiting a month to make a change to something. We try to use the talk pages for a lot of discussions, but sometimes a chat on Discord is a bit easier, so feel free to join us if you're ever interested. Keep up the great work! Hyarion (talk) 21:14, 1 July 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Thank you. I was wondering about that. Anyway, I thought most of the edits I made were references to fairly definitive ideas (the only thing I actually changed with Galadriel's page was a minor elaboration of what was written in the Shibboleth, so I was wondering whether I made any errors). SingingOrc (talk) 21:21, 1 July 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]