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:::::Maybe Linathiel simply thought realm = residence? -- [[User:Ederchil|Ederchil]] 09:09, 22 May 2008 (EDT)
:::::Maybe Linathiel simply thought realm = residence? -- [[User:Ederchil|Ederchil]] 09:09, 22 May 2008 (EDT)


==Opening sentence and infobox==
I know that this whole article should just be re-written, but in the mean time we should avoid making such bold statements of objectivity in the opening sentences. Under our new canon policy we can only really say that he was an elf of unknown/disputed origins who married Galadriel and lived for a time in Lórien. My main reason for prompting this discussion is because even using the [[Template:Teleri infobox|Teleri infobox]] is a conscious judgement on our part. Do we have a generic Elf infobox?--{{User:KingAragorn/sig}} 14:57, 8 August 2012 (UTC)
I know that this whole article should just be re-written, but in the mean time we should avoid making such bold statements of objectivity in the opening sentences. Under our new canon policy we can only really say that he was an elf of unknown/disputed origins who married Galadriel and lived for a time in Lórien. My main reason for prompting this discussion is because even using the [[Template:Teleri infobox|Teleri infobox]] is a conscious judgement on our part. Do we have a generic Elf infobox?--{{User:KingAragorn/sig}} 14:57, 8 August 2012 (UTC)

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Imladris?

Is there evidence that Celeborn once ruled Imladris? That info was added by Linathiel. ~ Earendilyon 03:21, 21 May 2008 (EDT)

It is not specifically stated, only that he dwelt there, if memeory serves me. -- Ederchil 03:48, 21 May 2008 (EDT)
Celeborn never ruled Imladris. He dwelt there for some time during the second age, he again went to live there after Galadriel had sailed away into the West.--Legolas 10:29, 21 May 2008 (EDT)
I agree with Legolas, Imladris was founded by Elrond, sent by Gil-galad, and ruled by him ever since, until he passed overseas. It is never stated who ruled Imladris after that, one may suppose that his sons, who remained there for a time, did so, though Celeborn was of course their senior, in years, status and powers. But he had no inherent authority in Imladris, that was a Noldorin settlement under the High King and his lieutenant(s). -- Mithrennaith 19:58, 21 May 2008 (EDT)
Deleted from the info-box. ~ Earendilyon 06:32, 22 May 2008 (EDT)
Maybe Linathiel simply thought realm = residence? -- Ederchil 09:09, 22 May 2008 (EDT)

Opening sentence and infobox

I know that this whole article should just be re-written, but in the mean time we should avoid making such bold statements of objectivity in the opening sentences. Under our new canon policy we can only really say that he was an elf of unknown/disputed origins who married Galadriel and lived for a time in Lórien. My main reason for prompting this discussion is because even using the Teleri infobox is a conscious judgement on our part. Do we have a generic Elf infobox?-- KingAragorn  talk  contribs  edits  email  14:57, 8 August 2012 (UTC)Reply[reply]