Talk:Eärendil
Narfil brought up a good question about the dates of Eärendil's life.
Eärendil the Mariner (First Age 503 – c. 575; did not die but become immortal. This dating is probably incorrect, especially if the elvish characteristics were strong in him, as he travelled on many voyages and was married, and this date places him very young for an elf; see Elves for more on this matter)
I checked the books, and I think the dates are fairly solid. Eärendil was seven years old at the Fall of Gondolin (The Silmarillion, Of Tour and the Fall of Gondolin) and went into the West with Elwing after the Third Kinslaying in 575. Does anyone else have significantly different dates? --Ebakunin 23:06, 14 May 2006 (EDT)
- I could not find any other dates. Either Tolkien never thought of that problem, or he assumed that the mannish characteristics were strong in both Eärendil and Elwing and everything that happened to them (the kinslaying at the Mouths of Sirion, the many voyages, etc.) happened in the space of seventy-two years, or the War of Wrath is placed at a later date than it should be. Does anyone know where those dates came from? --Narfil Palùrfalas 06:33, 15 May 2006 (EDT)
Title
Is "Eärendil the Mariner" really necessary? I propose renaming this article, "Eärendil". --Mith (Talk/Contribs/Edits) 10:03, 16 June 2010 (UTC)
- It comes from the old disambiguation system. Since he is definitely the best known, he should be at "Eärendil". -- Ederchil (Talk/Contribs/Edits) 10:27, 16 June 2010 (UTC)
Turgon's Parents
Mith, I do not understand why this change keeps being undone. If it is a problem with how I fixed it in the chart, fix that I suppose, but please stop making Finwë and Indis Turgon's parents. Turgon is not Fëanor's half-brother. "The sons of Fingolfin were Fingon . . . and Turgon, lord of Gondolin; their sister was Aredhel the White." (The Silmarillion - "Of Eldamar") "The Ñoldor then became divided into separate kingships under Fingon son of Fingolfin, Turgon his younger brother . . ." (The Peoples of Middle-earth - "The Shibboleth of Fëanor") p. 344 --Elf-esteem 18:08, 6 March 2016 (UTC)
