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::I also agree. In-universe and Elvish concepts separated from literary real-world concepts. [[User:Sage|Sage]] 21:05, 3 April 2009 (UTC) | ::I also agree. In-universe and Elvish concepts separated from literary real-world concepts. [[User:Sage|Sage]] 21:05, 3 April 2009 (UTC) | ||
::I believe that [[legendarium]] would refer to the actual body of texts that JRR Tolkien wrote while [[canon]] would refer to the interpretation of the work as set by [[Tolkien Enterprises]]. Personally, I think that JRR Tolkien would cringe at the use of the word [[canon]] since he was always rewriting his understand of his legendarium throughout his lifetime. I also don't think that [[Tolkien Enterprises]] address this notion as Paramount Pictures does with ''Star Trek''. I think most of the canon notion is actually done by fans more than anything when it comes to Tolkien's lengendarium. --[[User:Pinkkeith|Pinkkeith]] 16:58, 6 April 2009 (UTC) | ::I believe that [[legendarium]] would refer to the actual body of texts that JRR Tolkien wrote while [[canon]] would refer to the interpretation of the work as set by [[Tolkien Enterprises]]. Personally, I think that JRR Tolkien would cringe at the use of the word [[canon]] since he was always rewriting his understand of his legendarium throughout his lifetime. I also don't think that [[Tolkien Enterprises]] address this notion as Paramount Pictures does with ''Star Trek''. I think most of the canon notion is actually done by fans more than anything when it comes to Tolkien's lengendarium. --[[User:Pinkkeith|Pinkkeith]] 16:58, 6 April 2009 (UTC) | ||
:::"Canon" is definately a fan-derived concept; Tolkien himself was apparently very fond of retconning stuff. Canon creates many problems (such as "published Sil" v. "HoMe X and XI", Hobbit-only mentions, et cetera). Legendarium is the cover all term for any text relating to Arda, distinguishing it from other fiction (Farmer Giles, Father Christmas Letters, Roverandom et cetera). -- {{User:Ederchil/sig}} 17:43, 6 April 2009 (UTC) | |||
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I was thinking of putting this into Category:Tolkien studies and have this category be for the academic study of the work of Tolkien. This would be different, but related to Tolkien Studies the annual journal devoted to Tolkien studies.
Category:Concepts I think is really a place to be concepts that are mentioned in his fictional works. This category falls under the larger Category:Arda which is about the fictional universe Tolkien created. Category:Tolkien studies would fall under Category:Real-world since it is a field of study in the real-world.
What is everyones opionon on this? --Pinkkeith 19:08, 3 April 2009 (UTC)
- This article definately needs expansion. I agree on the Concepts category; Tolkien research needs an article of its own too. I've got a very brief outline of that in my head, but I don't think I have time to conjure up anything big. The question that needs to be asked, of course, is how does the legendarium relate to the canon? --Ederchil (Talk/Contribs/Edits) 20:14, 3 April 2009 (UTC)
- I also agree. In-universe and Elvish concepts separated from literary real-world concepts. Sage 21:05, 3 April 2009 (UTC)
- I believe that legendarium would refer to the actual body of texts that JRR Tolkien wrote while canon would refer to the interpretation of the work as set by Tolkien Enterprises. Personally, I think that JRR Tolkien would cringe at the use of the word canon since he was always rewriting his understand of his legendarium throughout his lifetime. I also don't think that Tolkien Enterprises address this notion as Paramount Pictures does with Star Trek. I think most of the canon notion is actually done by fans more than anything when it comes to Tolkien's lengendarium. --Pinkkeith 16:58, 6 April 2009 (UTC)
- "Canon" is definately a fan-derived concept; Tolkien himself was apparently very fond of retconning stuff. Canon creates many problems (such as "published Sil" v. "HoMe X and XI", Hobbit-only mentions, et cetera). Legendarium is the cover all term for any text relating to Arda, distinguishing it from other fiction (Farmer Giles, Father Christmas Letters, Roverandom et cetera). -- Ederchil (Talk/Contribs/Edits) 17:43, 6 April 2009 (UTC)
