Talk:Seven Rings

Where is it specified exactly in "Of The Rings of Power and the Third Age" that the dwarven rings did not confer invisibility? It only says that it does not turn them into shadows:

"The chief power (of all the rings alike) was the prevention or slowing of decay (i.e. ‘change’ viewed as a regrettable thing), the preservation of what is desired or loved, or its semblance – this is more or less an Elvish motive. But also they enhanced the natural powers of a possessor – thus approaching ‘magic’, a motive easily corruptible into evil, a lust for domination. And finally they had other powers, more directly derived from Sauron (‘the Necromancer’: so he is called as he casts a fleeting shadow and presage on the pages of The Hobbit): such as rendering invisible the material body, and making things of the invisible world visible. The Elves of Eregion made Three supremely beautiful and powerful rings, almost solely of their own imagination, and directed to the preservation of beauty: they did not confer invisibility." [...] "Seven rings he gave to the Dwarves; but to Men he gave nine, for Men proved in this matter as in others the readiest to his will. And all those rings that he governed he perverted, the more easily since he had a part in their making, and they were accursed, and they betrayed in the end all those that used them. The Dwarves indeed proved tough and hard to tame; they ill endure the domination of others, and the thoughts of their hearts are hard to fathom, nor can they be turned to shadows. They used their rings only for the getting of wealth; but wrath and an overmastering greed of gold were kindled in their hearts, of which evil enough after came to the profit of Sauron. It is said that the foundation of each of the Seven Hoards of the Dwarf-kings of old was a golden ring; but all those hoards long ago were plundered and the Dragons devoured them, and of the Seven Rings some were consumed in fire and some Sauron recovered." (JRRT, The Silmarillion, Of the Rings of Power and the Third Age) —Unsigned comment by 108.162.245.240 (talk • contribs).

I can find no mention (Silmarillion or otherwise) that indicates that the seven rings of the Dwarves did not confer invisibility (I think that only applied to the Elven rings). I'm going to remove that statement about not turning the Dwarves invisible; someone correct me if they find a source! --Grace18 04:12, 1 June 2022 (UTC)

The two reclaimed by Sauron are pity and fame. Thraíns ring is luck. Two of the lost ones are ardor and splendor.

Where is it said that exactly four of the rings were destroyed by fire and only three retrieved? The only thing I found in Silmarillion is that "some" of them were destroyed by dragons, but no specific number is given.

In The Lord of the Rings (Book I, Ch. 2, "The Shadow of the Past"), quite soon after having read the runes of the One Ring at Bag End, Gandalf says to Frodo: "Seven the Dwarf-kings possessed, but three he has recovered, and the others the dragons have consumed." --Tik 22:22, 28 November 2013 (UTC)