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:Could you point to a discussion of the issue, or to the page where it was reverted, so I can have a look? --[[User:Morgan|Morgan]] 19:15, 19 November 2020 (UTC)
 
:Could you point to a discussion of the issue, or to the page where it was reverted, so I can have a look? --[[User:Morgan|Morgan]] 19:15, 19 November 2020 (UTC)
 
::Thank you for your reply. I am happy to provide you with a list of deletions and changes made by the user Mith that relate to information on MERP/MECCG products in Portrayal in adaptions sections of pages. Being 32 years old the user Mith is probably not familiar with MERP. However, just because MERP and MECCG adaptions are books and are older an a very well done fan made map in MERP's Fenlon style based on information from MERP does not make them "not an adaption" or less worth than computer games or the films, which are prominently shown in the Portrayals in adaptions sections on many pages. In fact the Information in MERP products is often much more detailed than in computer games or the films and the latter do not cover some of the geographic areas and cover a different period in time. The Edits by the user Mith are inconsistent and conflict with each other and are thus frustrating to the user who spent time and effort to look up the information and to do the edits. One one hand, the user Mith seems to complain that general and brief information is not detailed enough, because it does not tell him something ("This tells me nothing", "This isn't tellung us anything about the portrayal. This is just a list of things", "a trivial list") on the other hand he complains that it is too much ("this is too much", "trivial list too much as wasn't needed", "This article needs less MERP not more"). The user Mith cannot have the cake and eat it too. Either the information on what is in those MERP products relating to the Tolkien Gateway page (e.g. South Gondor, Ithilien, Dunland, etc.) is very detailed and tells you a lot how the geography, flora, fauna, settlements, people are portrayed in those MERP products or the information is brief and general and just a summary and if a reader wants to know more then the reader has to read those MERP modules (which can be found on the internet). I have respect for the authors of MERP which often had academic training in relevant fields. The micromanagement done by the user Mith is demotivating. There would be much more important work for users like Mith to check the sources on many prominent articles and to delete incorrect information or to disclose speculations as speculations other than exercising his personal opinion on what he considers an "adaption" or what he considers important. I see a lot of users spending their time to correct typos or grammar or fixing broken references. I also do such edits, but such edits are easy to do and are low hangig fruits. In my opinion, it is more important to check contents and the references for accuracy by reading the sources, deleting wrong statements and adding or correcting references, disclosing speculuative statements as such and providing the basis on which speculative statements are based. --[[User:Akhorahil|Akhorahil]] 10:11, 20 November 2020 (UTC)
 
 
The user Mith deleted my references to MERP modules and brief descriptions of their content relating to Umbar on the Umbar page with the comment "This tells me nothing" in the Summary: box. http://www.tolkiengateway.net/w/index.php?title=Umbar&action=historysubmit&diff=323046&oldid=323027
 
 
::The user Mith deleted my references to MERP modules and brief descriptions of their content relating to Dunland and the misty mountains as the neighbouring mountains on the Dunland page without any comment in the Summary: box. http://www.tolkiengateway.net/w/index.php?title=Dunland&action=historysubmit&diff=323060&oldid=323011
 
 
::The user Mith deleted my references to MERP modules and brief descriptions of their Content relating to Far Harad on the Far Harad page with the comment "Again, this is too much. This isn't tellung us anything about the portrayal. This is just a list of things. Please don't do this again" in the Summary box. http://www.tolkiengateway.net/w/index.php?title=Far_Harad&action=historysubmit&diff=323038&oldid=322792
 
 
:: The user Mith deleted my brief comments which hills, uplands, settlements, river and roads in Harondor are included in the the MERP module Southern Gondor: The Land, my comments that the map of Ithilien in the MERP module Sea-lords of Gondor shows that Haud-in-Gwânur is on the northern shore of the river Poros and is thus probably in Ithilien and not in Harondor and that the MEPR module Southern Gondor: The Land also mentions that Haud-in-Gwanûr is on the north bank of Athrad Poros, my comments that issue 20 of Other Minds contains an article about Harondor and a map of Harondor and my comments why the name (location) "Harondor" on the Middle-earth Collectible Card Game (MECCG) card for Haudh-in-Gwanûr was an error on the South Gondor page (= the page for Harondor) with the comment "A very big tidy, and reduced adaptions considerably. Ventured into a trivial list too much as wasn't needed" in the Summary: box. http://www.tolkiengateway.net/w/index.php?title=South_Gondor&action=historysubmit&diff=321732&oldid=321702
 
 
::The user Mith deleted my comments that the role playing fan magazine Other Minds Issue 20 contains a map of Harondor that is based on the description of Harondor in the MERP module Southern Gondor: The Land and on the map of Northwestern Middle-earth in the MERP Northwestern Middle-earth Gazetteer on page 146 on the South Gondor page with the comment "Other Minds 20 is not an adaption" in the Summary: box(= the page for Harondor). http://www.tolkiengateway.net/w/index.php?title=South_Gondor&action=historysubmit&diff=323041&oldid=322774
 
 
::The user Mith deleted my reference to a map that shows parts of Near Harad on the border to Harondor in the rople playing fan magazine Other Minds Issue 20 and comments on which information from which MERP products the map is based on the Near Harad page without any comment in the Summary: box. http://www.tolkiengateway.net/w/index.php?title=Near_Harad&action=historysubmit&diff=323044&oldid=322793
 
 
 
::The user Mith deleted my explanation that the MERP Gorgoroth module also includes the names of two rivers and the names of three settlements and animals that occur in Nurn in Nurn on two maps.
 
http://www.tolkiengateway.net/w/index.php?title=Nurn&action=historysubmit&diff=323042&oldid=322809
 
 
::The user Mith deleted a brief description of information about Ithilien that is contained in the MERP Southern Gondor: The Land module on the Ithilien page with the comment in the "Tidied up" Summary: box. http://www.tolkiengateway.net/w/index.php?title=Ithilien&action=historysubmit&diff=321750&oldid=321682
 
 
::The user Mith added the comment "This article needs less MERP not more" to the Talk page of the South Gondor page. http://www.tolkiengateway.net/w/index.php?title=Talk%3ASouth_Gondor&action=historysubmit&diff=321412&oldid=320525
 

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