Talk:Captain of the Haven
 Was he killed?
It isn't categorically stated that the Captain of the Haven was neccessarily "killed" but rather Aragorn "overthrew" him. I believe a note should be added to address this issue and that it should remain open-ended.--Tolkienator 03:13, 10 April 2021 (UTC)
- I think that we can agree that he presumably died also someone correct me if I'm wrong, overthrew in a sense means getting killed.--Shivam 04:22, 10 April 2021 (UTC)
- I agree with Tolkienator and I disagree with Shivam. The verb "to overthrow" does not necessarily mean to "kill" someone. I think that the same Verb should be used in the article that Tolkien used. Also the page in the Surprise attack on Umbar should be corrected. I partly corrected the Surprise attack on Umbar page in the past if you look on its page history --Akhorahil 06:16, 10 April 2021 (UTC)
- Ofcourse I am not sure. I might be wrong.--Shivam 07:55, 10 April 2021 (UTC)
- dictionary.cambridge.org to overthrow means to defeat or to remove somebody from power, using force. Tolkien also used verbs in their older meaning, which I have not checked. Tolkien also used to fell in other instances. In both cases the person probably fell to the ground, but it is not known whether they were dead, wounded or merely unconscious. --Akhorahil 08:05, 10 April 2021 (UTC)
- ^I agree. I will make the necessary adjustments. Perhaps a note about the terminology would be sufficient to clear this up. I need to cleanup the Surprise Attack on Umbar page as well.--Tolkienator 16:50, 10 April 2021 (UTC)