Talk:Free Peoples of Middle-earth

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Latest comment: 10 March 2009 by Ederchil

In addition to this, there is an article Free peoples. One of these merged should be to another, feels I. --Tik 18:14, 4 March 2008 (EST)

On the merge: I did some F5's on the books I have digital (LotR, HoMe, H, S, UT, L): I didn't get any hits on "Free Peoples of Middle-earth", and only two "Free Peoples": "free peoples" in Treebeard, and "Free Peoples of the World", in The Ring Goes South. Which one should it be? I favour the latter. -- Ederchil (Talk/Contribs/Edits) 22:46, 9 March 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Hmm, Hammond/Scull in A Reader's Companion and Drout in Encyclopedia seem to use "Free Peoples" and no mention of "Free Peoples of the World." Do we go with most common or the only usage in the legendarium? I could go either way. --Hyarion 01:21, 10 March 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]
The quotes just for sources' sake:
"For the rest, they shall represent the other Free Peoples of the World: Elves, Dwarves, and Men. Legolas shall be for the Elves; and Gimli son of Glóin for the Dwarves. They are willing to go at least to the passes of the Mountains, and maybe beyond. For men you shall have Aragorn son of Arathorn, for the Ring of Isildur concerns him closely."
The Ring Goes South
"Learn now the lore of Living Creatures!
First name the four, the free peoples:
Eldest of all, the elf-children;
Dwarf the delver, dark are his houses;
Ent the earthborn, old as mountains;
Man the mortal, master of horses:
Hm, hm, hm.
"
Treebeard
Hammond and Scull mention of the Free Peoples is a wholly unrelated manner. JRRTE gives a variety of variations, including the very strange "Free Peoples of the First and Third Ages" in Sandra Ballif Straubhaar's "Huns". It only appears in the index under the unattested "Free Peoples of the West", and only Christina Heckman (in "Sacrifice") correctyl quotes FotR. -- Ederchil (Talk/Contribs/Edits) 08:00, 10 March 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]
More hits:"Free Lords of the Free" in The Council of Elrond, "Free Folk" in The Ring Goes South, and "all free folk of the West" in The Field of Cormallen -- Ederchil (Talk/Contribs/Edits) 11:32, 10 March 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]