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Has anyone analyzed the influence of Enochian literature on Tolkein's cosmology? I'm thinking in particular of the 'good' and 'bad' angels coming down to earth, tempting men and leading to the Fall. Although this is apocrypa from a Catholic viewpoint it seems closer to Tolkein's version than does the canonical version in Genesis —Unsigned comment by Hirthman (talk • contribs).

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As to the point you raise, that would certainly be worth looking into, but I do not, offhand, know of any such analysis. — Mithrennaith 22:41, 14 January 2010 (UTC)

I haven't read much about it, but the Enochian concepts have common points with several myths, especially the eastern ones. Tolkien could have known either this mythology, or similar ones, and similarities could be coincidental more or less. Sage 15:02, 15 January 2010 (UTC)

Apologies, that was my first contribution and I'm not familiar with your etiquette, and I'm also unsure what is wrong with referring to the great man as Tolkein, as one would Wittgenstein or Austen - no disrespect intended.

My substantive point was on Tolkein's cosmology. He was a good Catholic, and I find it interesting that whereas he was normally quite happy to use Norse, Finnish, Welsh or any other mythology, when it comes to quasi-religious aspects of his world's creation, he uses Hebrew mythology, albeit not the canonical version (which would perhaps be too familiar to the reader). I was hoping that someone familiar with Tolkein's letters would know whether (perhaps in a letter to CS Lewis or to his publisher) he had discussed the sources for his cosmology. good afternoon etc - —Unsigned comment by Hirthman (talk • contribs).

Moved it here from talk. As for "I'm also unsure what is wrong with referring to the great man as Tolkein": See Tolkein. -- Ederchil ^{(Talk/Contribs/Edits)} 16:14, 20 January 2010 (UTC)