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Talk:Journeys of Frodo

[edit] 'The' in title

Should this be moved to The Journeys of Frodo? --Hyarion 22:02, 21 February 2006 (EST)

That's a tricky one, as the cover of the book itself doesn't have the 'The', but Amazon does name it 'The Journeys of Frodo'. Best thing its to have a look at the frontispiece if it and go with the title there. --Earendilyon 14:00, 22 February 2006 (EST)
I'll most likely do that. We'll live without the 'The' for now as I trust the cover more so than Amazon --Hyarion 00:44, 23 February 2006 (EST)

[edit] 'First edition' map

Not exactly a question about the Journeys, but the article mentions this:

"Tolkien's maps, from the Second Edition of The Lord of the Rings onwards, show the East Road running straight from the Last Bridge to the Ford of Bruinen. [...] Christopher Tolkien stated that Strachey apparently used the First Edition and thus her map does not agree with the later versions of the geography."

Which exactly is the map of the First Edition, and how does it differ with the maps "from the Second Edition onwards"?

I thought that the "First Edition map" is the General Map of Middle-earth, however, as far as the East Road is concerned, it is exactly the same as in the later maps, so even if this General Map is an early one, it is not of the First Edition.

Can we find a sample of the First Edition map? Sage 15:44, 23 January 2017 (UTC)

AbeBooks sells the First Edition (for a salty price) and they have some images of the books. One of them is from the map, quite good. But I can't see any difference. Can you? --Tik 16:13, 23 January 2017 (UTC)
Thank you Tik. That's what I have to say
  1. It's the same map. The map from First, Second etc editions is the same.
  2. The changes CT refers to are not on the map, but in the text; the 1st edition had some details wrong that were corrected afterwards.
  3. CT doesn't mention a mistake on Strachey's part. On the other hand he says she guessed it accurately according to the text (which reflected personal, draft maps). The only "discrepancy" is that she used the 1st edition text, which contradicts the published map. Sage 17:08, 23 January 2017 (UTC)