Talk:Mîm

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Latest comment: 17 May 2020 by Morgan in topic The Complaint Poem

In First Age 499, Húrin Thalion, who had seen all that had happened to Túrin with Morgoth's eyes, came across Mîm in Nargothrond, and killed him, deeming him partially responsible for Túrin's fate. With his dying words Mîm cursed the treasure. Húrin's band brought the treasure of Nargothrond to Doriath, where eventually the gold was a reason for the Sack of Doriath and the death of Thingol.

This is from TBLOTII, isn't it? Or comes it also in one of the latter versions of the Sil. I can't remember I ever readed this in the Sil,--82.176.210.66 15:05, 30 November 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Yes the curse is not mentioned in later texts, it needs to be rewritten.--LorenzoCB 11:45, 17 May 2020 (UTC)Reply[reply]

The Complaint Poem[edit source]

As I can't check the German translation or the Companion & Guide summary of it, I don't know if it specifies if the poem is really talking about the same Mîm (I mean, the poem is an independent work, so it could be unrelated with the Silmarillion). Also, given the summary, it seems unclear if Mîm's complaint happens before or after the Sack of Bar-en-Danwedh. Any case, I would include the information of the poem within OVOTL. --LorenzoCB 11:45, 17 May 2020 (UTC)Reply[reply]

I agree. A short summary of the poem and related prose text could indeed be included in OVOTL. As of now, the interested reader might find information by searching under "See also". However, the user, whose edit I reverted, had copied the verbatim text from Hammond and Scull, and made some extrapolations that can't be deduced from what H&S write.--Morgan 15:59, 17 May 2020 (UTC)Reply[reply]